alyaza [they/she]

internet gryphon. admin of Beehaw, mostly publicly interacting with people. nonbinary. they/she

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Cake day: January 28th, 2022

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  • counterpoint:

    1. we don’t like Meta
    2. we have very specific goals on this instance that Meta is totally antithetical to
    3. we’re quite open about not being open-fed with everyone and this is not out of character nor a contradiction of previous blocks we’ve made
    4. our priorities are not “fediverse first” or “ActivityPub first”, they’re Beehaw first. the fediverse and ActivityPub are mostly tools for us to an end, and we don’t accept some obligation to prioritize the greater health of those over our own thing.
    5. even if you don’t care about the rest of that simple logistics prevail here–we absolutely don’t want to be responsible for potentially tens or hundreds of millions of additional users. that is not a thing we can ever commit to, and we will almost certainly sooner shut down the instance or completely defederate than eat that influx (particularly with Lemmy’s limitations right now).

    overall, i would say this falls into the camp of “not a thing we’re realistically going to reconsider”.



  • I’ve never visited this site before today and don’t know who Bari Weiss is.

    ah, lucky you! Weiss apparently runs this site (just checked) and is generally infamous for being what amounts to a free speech concern troll. she most infamously resigned from the New York Times (where she previously was an op-ed columnist) over what amounted to people criticizing her takes both inside and outside the newspaper. i’d generally characterize her as interested in free speech only when it’s conservatives saying heinous things being shut down, and never when the aforementioned queer people are actually having their free speech and right to exist threatened by an entire political party. she’s also a very ardent, self-described Zionist and seems to suspend that interest in freedom of speech when it comes to people critiquing Israel. it’s… corny, to say the least.


  • Very good point - I think however it’s worth noting the lack of the NSDA’s addressing of the judges biases and the high levels of debate within that organization the specific people oversee.

    to be honest though i’m not really sure how you can address human bias here, and i’m confident this was also a problem before people started complaining about wokeness like they are here. obviously in an ideal world you would have a system that can impartially adjudicate these things–but these debates are often on very real subjects that impact real people. (in a lot of cases, i’d argue there is even a correct answer to most of these debates that inevitably looms over them.) i suspect the easier route is to just bake in the reality that people will have biases and that’s a part of convincing them in the debate process.


  • yeah speaking purely about the link here (and not OP, who i’m sure has normal reasons for posting it) i was initially interested in what this had to say but immediately seeing a site with Bari Weiss involved is a red flag, because she has nothing interesting or principled to say about free speech or where it’s being violated. unfortunately, this site also strikes me as yet another uninteresting, right-wing one that primarily peddles articles like “Free Speech Is Being Destroyed On College Campuses By Woke Libtards And Cucked Teachers” that conveniently ignores the concerted political effort by Republicans to ban queer people from the public space and libraries and other venues of public speech from acknowledging their existence. and the article here doesn’t really dispel my presumption.





  • I also wanted to let you know that The Dude created a “Greek Democracy” style system called The Agora. That’s probably what he means by “review”. He said a few days ago that anything important would be thrown there for the crowd to decide.

    i’m aware, and i’ve stated already why i don’t think this is worth that (and separately, i have extreme reservations about using a system of that sort to make decisions like this).



  • okay so no, i guess you don’t get how this comes off. i’m not even going to dignify your false equivalencies or appeals to the ACLU as if they are infallible or can’t be criticized for some of the positions they take (however principled). i think it’s telling that you’re screaming about how insulting it is for making “assumptions” about you–yet you in no way deviate from how a person who my assumptions apply to would respond here. to put it another way: you’re not beating the Yet Another Annoying, Probably White, Probably Cis-Het Man allegations, and this space isn’t for you. go away.


  • ultimately it’s his website ultimately and his users are free to decide. but if they decide to keep the community they can’t really blame anyone but themselves for any subsequent defederations. particularly in a federated system, there are consequences to a laissez-faire approach–that approach has been tried time and time again with the same end result (a community of extremely unpleasant people who everyone else quarantines) and at this point many people are just not interested in federating with a community that might go down that route. that’s basically what people are getting at here, imo.