• Tolc@lemmy.worldOP
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    your critique of marxism leninism seems to be “party have control over production” which in no way reflects capitalism due to absence of the bourgeosie, wage labor, profit extraction, etc. Your critique seems to be moral rather than materialistic.

    You also assume that said parties completely function by the direction of some elite and not by the suggestion of people.

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      You also assume that said parties completely function by the direction of some elite and not by the suggestion of people.

      Do you know a single thing about how the USSR actually functioned?

      which in no way reflects capitalism due to absence of the bourgeosie, wage labor, profit extraction, etc.

      Define bourgeoisie, because what else would the soviet ruling class effectively be if not just that?

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        22 hours ago

        Do you know a single thing about how the USSR actually functioned?

        I know more about that than you since I am a communist

        Define bourgeoisie

        Bourgeosie owns private poperty for extraction of surplus value for its own which is generated by labor power of working class. Hope this helps

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          21 hours ago

          Great, you have the knowledge and you have the awareness, now I’d like to hear your take on Holodomor. Should be easy for you as it perfectly ties both of these takes together.

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              18 hours ago

              Did you have fun cherrypicking for russophiliac propaganda writing this tankie piece of shit? That “article” is a copy-paste of 1980s Progressive Labor Party garbage and a Doug Tottle book published by a literal Soviet-front press. Your “reputed historians” quotes predate the Soviet archives opening, so the stuff that actually confirmed the targeted grain quotas, the border seals around Ukraine/Kuban, and the blacklisted villages. Even the historians who reject the word “genocide” don’t claim it was just weather and kulaks, so you’re to the right of your own sources.

              And BadEmpanada isn’t a historian, he’s a tankie youtuber. Try citing something that isn’t stalinist fanfic next time.

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                20 hours ago

                You seem to be mad rather than engaging with the argument at hand. I hope you liberals try to argue next time. What is your source that it was a man made genocide? I hope you bring some sources like I did rather than being mad and discarding them without any argument and throwing slurs.

                Even the historians who reject the word “genocide” don’t claim it was just weather and kulaks, so you’re to the right of your own sources.

                Neither did I say it was only the weather or kulaks, soviet leadership did mistakes, quite big mistakes infact, does that mean it was intentional genocide? nothing concludes that.

                I dont even watch badempanada regularly but this video is pretty good at analyzing holodmor, you could give it a try because badempanda rather than forcing in his own opinion cites direct sources and critically analyzes them.