• parens@programming.dev
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    10 months ago

    Flakes are optional

    I think the bigger point is that they are experimental. Who wants to go into production with experimental stuff? Unfortunately, if my employer were to read a suggestion of using experimental stuff in production, it would be immediately rejected.
    nix itself, however, has been getting some people interested at work and if things go well, might be integrated into production solutions we sell to customers.

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      10 months ago

      They really should be moved out of that category soon. They’ve been so fully embraced and used by the community that they’re effectively standard now.

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        10 months ago

        The article clearly states otherwise

        Flakes also are a symptom or cause of much intra-community strife between “pro-flakes” and “anti-flakes” factions

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          10 months ago

          Oh, that’s easy – that’s utter bullshit. Article is generous, this is a blog post.

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              10 months ago

              Because I’m pretty active in the Nix community and have never seen a single anti-flakes comment anywhere. Plenty of people advocating for flakes, and those who don’t use or understand flakes. But never anyone who actively dislikes them.

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                10 months ago

                OK, I see where you’re coming from. You’re interpreting “anti” as “dislike”. Have you considered interpreting it as those who don’t use and don’t want to use flakes?

                Just because there is disagreement, doesn’t mean that it has to be tied to negative emotions like hate or dislike.

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                  10 months ago

                  Well no, because that’s not what “anti” means.

                  And one can absolutely use NixOS without using flakes, whether they’re marked experimental or not. They’re simply a way to make inputs declarative, rather than the nix-channel method which is imperative.

                  So there’s no “disagreement” here either.