Understandable, I agree with your points, and I’m not saying the reason for the act was bad. I realize that I worded myself poorly, but I was attempting to say that the attacking of the embassy seemed like a disproportionate escalation in the face of the offense. Especially when the embassy has nothing at all do with the situation and is manned by innocent workers, of which the actual diplomats are a tiny percentage of.
I agree the act was hateful and done of malice against a people, but I struggle to see how escalating to the burning of a diplomatic embassy accomplishes anything.
Also Christian Atheists is an extremely weird oxymoron. How can one be atheist if they are Christian?
Yeah, it is definitely an escalation, but I wouldn’t say it’s disproportionate within the context of Sweden also joining NATO. That means that Sweden is basically an enemy country to them, and also one that not only houses neo-nazis but authorizes burning of Iraqi symbols. From my understanding this a constant criticism from Muslim-majority countries opposed to NATO that they’ll house both neo-nazis and fundamentalist terrorist recruiters within their lands while constantly invading, destabilising or toppling MENA countries that actually try to curb those groups.
Reading further it seems like workers were safely evacuated the day before and nobody was hurt. Things like this happen a lot where armed groups burn empty buildings/busses and symbolically and embassy workers in enemy countries already expect events like that. It sends the message that Sweden is not welcome there and makes their meddling and interference harder to do, though it sometimes can also be a false flag operation to justify even more military intervention. I guess an important bit is that the embassy is Sweden’s government’s official representation in Iraq, so if Iraqi people have an issue with Sweden that’s the first place to go complain.
It is definitely not some great victory for Iraq though just a minor event, but it’ll make headlines in The West® and I still think it’s not really an unfair escalation. Now the ball is on the court of Sweden on if they’ll escalate further or back down.
Also Christian Atheists is an extremely weird oxymoron. How can one be atheist if they are Christian?
I haven’t found a better name for this phenomenon I see a lot, so that’s how I call them in my head. It’s that sort of atheist that assumes that just because they renounced the metaphysical beliefs of Christianity that they are suddenly devoid of all Christian cultural values and social beliefs, which leads them to assume they’re universal. They tend to side a lot with actual reactionary Christians on racist/xenophobic policies such as the clothing bans by refusing to understand the power dynamics and nuances of religions, cultures and their interactions, and also look down on different religious traditions such as Hanukkah without bothering to even learn about them beforehand. Lots of them don’t even know much about Christianity outside of Catholicism/Protestantism. TLDR: Culturally Catholic Reactionary Atheists.
I met a lot of people like that in my life, including one former friend that went on a huge tirade against Islam just because I commented that I was trying to learn how to pronounce Arabic script. Being atheist and an amateur theology/history nerd myself I am not fond of this behaviour.
Understandable, I agree with your points, and I’m not saying the reason for the act was bad. I realize that I worded myself poorly, but I was attempting to say that the attacking of the embassy seemed like a disproportionate escalation in the face of the offense. Especially when the embassy has nothing at all do with the situation and is manned by innocent workers, of which the actual diplomats are a tiny percentage of.
I agree the act was hateful and done of malice against a people, but I struggle to see how escalating to the burning of a diplomatic embassy accomplishes anything.
Also Christian Atheists is an extremely weird oxymoron. How can one be atheist if they are Christian?
Yeah, it is definitely an escalation, but I wouldn’t say it’s disproportionate within the context of Sweden also joining NATO. That means that Sweden is basically an enemy country to them, and also one that not only houses neo-nazis but authorizes burning of Iraqi symbols. From my understanding this a constant criticism from Muslim-majority countries opposed to NATO that they’ll house both neo-nazis and fundamentalist terrorist recruiters within their lands while constantly invading, destabilising or toppling MENA countries that actually try to curb those groups.
Reading further it seems like workers were safely evacuated the day before and nobody was hurt. Things like this happen a lot where armed groups burn empty buildings/busses and symbolically and embassy workers in enemy countries already expect events like that. It sends the message that Sweden is not welcome there and makes their meddling and interference harder to do, though it sometimes can also be a false flag operation to justify even more military intervention. I guess an important bit is that the embassy is Sweden’s government’s official representation in Iraq, so if Iraqi people have an issue with Sweden that’s the first place to go complain.
It is definitely not some great victory for Iraq though just a minor event, but it’ll make headlines in The West® and I still think it’s not really an unfair escalation. Now the ball is on the court of Sweden on if they’ll escalate further or back down.
I haven’t found a better name for this phenomenon I see a lot, so that’s how I call them in my head. It’s that sort of atheist that assumes that just because they renounced the metaphysical beliefs of Christianity that they are suddenly devoid of all Christian cultural values and social beliefs, which leads them to assume they’re universal. They tend to side a lot with actual reactionary Christians on racist/xenophobic policies such as the clothing bans by refusing to understand the power dynamics and nuances of religions, cultures and their interactions, and also look down on different religious traditions such as Hanukkah without bothering to even learn about them beforehand. Lots of them don’t even know much about Christianity outside of Catholicism/Protestantism. TLDR: Culturally Catholic Reactionary Atheists.
I met a lot of people like that in my life, including one former friend that went on a huge tirade against Islam just because I commented that I was trying to learn how to pronounce Arabic script. Being atheist and an amateur theology/history nerd myself I am not fond of this behaviour.