I meant it from the POV of 2021, so “wins again in 24”

In 2024, everything was already laid out for everybody to see clear as day - Trump1.0, MAGA’s behavior since 2021, Project 2025…

BTW, in 2016, both Mary Trump and Tony Schwartz predicted Jan 6 21: “If he loses the next election, he won’t go willingly.”

Ever since Jan 6 21 it’s been crystal clear where this goes if he wins again.

forwarding can fail

how so?

i just connect to POP and get everything in bulk

That can also fail.

forwarding changes the original headers

if i forward spam my provider gets pissed

Both these things are fixable with standard mailing software.

PS: I also don’t see why this forwarding-or-fetching is necessary at all. It’s easy to maintain several email addresses on any device.

What the other commenter suggests is not better.

I also don’t see why this forwarding-or-fetching is necessary at all. It’s easy to maintain several email addresses on any device.

It’s not an all-or-nothing type situation.

like switching from Walmart to 15 other stores just to buy the same stuff

As the other commenter pointed out: you do that once. And if you do it properly, nobody will be sending anything to a gmail address you don’t use anymore.
Then you have 15 stores all around the same parking lot, to stick with your analogy.

And yes, it’s always a trade-off with convenience, but much less so than you make it sound.

BTW, above list sucks, there are much better lists of alternatives around. And articles that describe how to switch etc. etc.

Openstreetmap (OSM) is a much larger project than you seem to realize. At least OSMAnd is “theirs”, and there is many apps/sites/software that use OSM behind the scenes. E.g., all the official route planners of cities in my country.

And if you REALLY want to help, openstreetmap has very good tools for adding information, though you need to use the website for it since it can get quite complex which makes it a bit more cumbersome.

Every bit helps. Desktop apps exist. OSMAnd has editing built in.

On second thought you’re absolutely right. Report created.

edit: oh, this is YSK, I was thinking more about IT communities.

The normal process would be to tell these other accounts to send emails to your primary account. Why would you even authorize another software (or mail provider) to fetch them instead.

Filters are available (almost) everywhere.

edit: I also don’t see why this forwarding-or-fetching is necessary at all. It’s easy to maintain several email addresses on any device.

Thanks for pointing that out!
I had assumed one of the reasons the list feels so weak to me is because they didn’t want to add selfhosted alternatives.
But since that is not the case, the list is even weaker than I thought.

This is a strong list: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

Some people are willing to contend with less perfect UIs to get away from Big Tech.

The list is incomplete, a bit dumb, and mostly advertising anyhow. Each heading should have many more and often better alternatives.

And as mentioned elsewhere, many cited alternatives are not degoogled at all.

And once you go that way you should go one step further and look for open source alternatives. I’m pretty sure some listed aren’t that either.

There are better curated, less biased lists out there.

Do snails climb up metal posts like this? I think kids are behind this, and I approve. I have seen them collecting snails by the dozen and carrying them around in their little grubby hands.

Still have it in my clipboard…

“Dear Jonas,” the president wrote to Norway’s prime minister, Jonas Gahr Støre. “Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a ‘right of ownership’ anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT.”

Assuming the cat is a decoartive addition - what would curbs have to fear from cars? Isn’t it the other way round? If not, what would curbs have to fear from cats?

🎶 Pass The Dutchie on di left hand side 🎶

Still amazes me that those lyrics were written and performed by a bunch of teens & preteens and were a big hit back then.

“It comes in three flavors: stale, useless and moldy”

edit: look at the downvotes. Sheesh, I was just going with the joke. FWIW I’m typing this on a Debian Stale machine. Same as my server.

Good to remember that sometimes.

Could they be connected 🤔

I often do that before taking a piss though. Thought process: 🔔need to pee! => Drink water! => go pee.

I guess it’s a professional thing; I need to talk & move around a lot on the job and it really dries you out. There never seems to be enough time to hydrate properly.

Also single btw.