BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]

Sure no subtext there. Fucking smug ass lib

What was your point then?

In this thread there’s been a lot of handwaving about “war is hell.” You said war is desensitizing and that the peoole who did war crimes were “unstable.”

Thats really common when US war crimes are brought up. “Well obviously war is hell/war is desensitizing/they were just crazy,” gets deployed, instead of the most obvious thing staring us in the face - the core US value of white supremecy.

War is hell. What about the culture of white supremacy, genocide, rascism, and aparthied the men who commited these crimes came from? Was it really just war that desensitized them?

You may not, even probably aren’t falling into this consciously. But you are making excuses for war crimes and the reality of what the US actually is.

You made an excuse for war crimes

Seems necessary with all the “war is hell” handwaving going on to point out that the people who did this are war criminals

That’s an overly generous view of war crimes

That they’re war criminals

Its a war crime

Ah, the real 9/11

I don’t know how spell abu graib either lol

all over the place in these comments

Probably not intentionally. Looking at this and saying some variation of “war is hell” or “war is pretty fucked up” as you said is extremely handwavey. War being hell doesn’t mean we can’t focus on individual war crimes, particularly those done by the US.

Theres a lot of people who reflexively throw up there hands and say “War is Hell” (they’re swarming here) when you bring up a US war crime. But if you bring up sonething done by a designated enemy of the US people don’t do that.

Its may not be intentional but its still not good

I don’t care about the deaths of fascists. That doesn’t make it less sick to take skulls as trophies.

The point is Amero-fascists are also barbarous and always have been. The “war is hell” handwaving getting invoked doesn’t mean you can’t talk about crimes. The sane way i wouldn’t handwave away the many crimes of the Japanese fascists

In fact, war crimes can only happen during war. That means they need to be discussed and not just handwaved with “war is hell”

Yeah, but American troops did it so its just a heckin “war is hell” moment. No need to wrestle with it, just shug your big R rational shoulders

Yeah, so taking skulls as war trophies is fine

Why stand up for Obama? He’s a narcissist who did a ton of awful shit. The ACA may have threw some crumbs, but the loaf of bread went straight to the insurance companies.

Create a better world through revolutionary solcialism

I get what you’re saying. There are ways to think that can help people feel happier or better on a personal, individual level. Thats more or less what some forms of therapy can do for people, and its a very good thing, again on an individual level.

But the context in that piece, and where i would put the emphasis, is that its an example of capitalist alienation and atomization. There’s no individual answer to that. It’s something that is pushed onto all of us through our relationship to capital, and to truely end that malaise, we need to work toward ending capitalism itself.

I don’t think anyone is pushing modern capitalist Russia, although kleprocratic, imperialist oligarchy describes the US and western liberal democracy at large as much as it does the Russian Federation.

China though has a better democracy than the US. Calling it a dictatorship is pure western brainworms.

Edit: Why do you think the US is not a kleptocratic, imperialist oligarchy? And why do you think liberal democracy is more democratic than full process democracy in China?

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