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No, it’s Patrick

Darkness is actually great in areas without light pollution! Like polar opposite to “depressing”

What makes you so sure about that?

What notifications? (I’m too lazy to setup notification daemon)

There’s not enough “k” in your komment to be a valid excuse

I like both! But it never occurred to me that there’s correlation

Governments can also be sued

My point is they don’t lose hard earned money, they just pay you money they collect forcefully from people. Basically it’s not a deterrent, but simple restitution

As far as government accountability, that’s what elections are for.

It’s quite rare for any candidate to talk about utilities in their campaign at all.

People here tend to not associate govt owned corporations with the government itself. And when someone brings it up, they just make some kind of excuse about what terrible person you are for accusing such a benevolent government of incompetence when they don’t fix their stuff, and increase price 2

And besides, chances of reelection are so slim I doubt any politician actually going for it. It’s much more profitable to simply lie about your promises

But utilities really can’t go out of business

They should declare bankruptcy and be sold to someone

loss of those services would be catastrophic

Government failed to consistently provide power — no catastrophe. Government failed to provide any water at all — no catastrophe (some people just started to pump and sell underground water)

So why private buisness not providing just one of those services for the period before it’s bought, must result in catastrophe? (Just for time reference, the absence of water I described earlier already lasts longer than a year)

Governments can also be sued

My point is they don’t lose hard earned money, they just pay you money they collect forcefully from people. Basically it’s not a deterrent, but simple restitution

As far as government accountability, that’s what elections are for.

It’s quite rare for any candidate to talk about utilities in their campaign at all.

People here tend to not associate govt owned corporations with the government itself. And when someone brings it up, they just make some kind of excuse about what terrible person you are for accusing such a benevolent government of incompetence when they don’t fix their stuff, and increase price 2

And besides, chances of reelection are so slim I doubt any politician actually going for it. It’s much more profitable to simply lie about your promises

But utilities really can’t go out of business

They should declare bankruptcy and be sold to someone

loss of those services would be catastrophic

Government failed to consistently provide power — no catastrophe. Government failed to provide any water at all — no catastrophe (some people just started to pump and sell underground water)

So why private buisness not providing just one of those services for the period before it’s bought, must result in catastrophe? (Just for time reference, the absence of water I described earlier already lasts longer than a year)

I actually deleted my comment when I reread what you originally commented. But it seems like it’s still there for some reason

As I said in reply to other person, in my country there’s private businesses providing those services for cheaper price than the government alternative. Infrastructure for the most part is provided by 3rd party.

Also I keep hearing this talk about “government accountability”, but what mechanism of accountability does government have? Private firms at least can go out of business or sued. Government in worst case will just pay you some of its “tax money”

In my country private companies provide their service much cheaper than government alternative. And, yes they use shared infrastructure.

I get the reasons for most of your points from a perspective of moderate “leftist”. But why “Govt ownership of essential industries like electricity, water, gas”?

You seem to somewhat believe in private enterprise, so why prevent it from providing those services at competitive cost/quality?

So basically Centrism?

By that logic, thieves are virtuous and valued by society.

Thieves are forced to return what they stole, they don’t (usually) accumulate capital

In reality, the wealthy are creating value for themselves and their peers

Could you please provide an example? Even something like Apple products (luxuries) are used by people that can’t be called rich. So it’s hard for me to understand how wealthy could create their separate economy

First of all lobbying and any other intrusion into fair competition is incompatible with free market.

As for the “rich” — without government enforced monopolies, their wealth is a representation of how much value they provide to society. Which roughly translates into their support by society. A bit like representative democracy, but more decentralized.

Of course, because “every organization is less effective than individual” :P

Additionally it’s “literally socialism”

They don’t want to admit it but they are just a few steps away from anarchy.

Pretty much everyone admits it. Minarchist (pro minimal govt) flag is literally ancap with black changed to blue.

Soo the, we got problems to big for one person alone to solve. If we let every fucker do whatever he wants we going down fast. We need inteligente population orientated to something good, organizerd trough democracy.

Free Market is essentially a “continuous democratic process”. If what somebody does benefit people, he gets incentivised with profits. If people see no value in what he’s doing – he gets losses. And if in the process of " doing whatever he wants" he does any harm to others ge gets sued.

And all of this happens constantly instead of once in a couple of years, without almost any accountability from those who’re in power as it works in republic.

I don’t understand how Americans practice Christianity that it traumatizes people? I remember hearing from someone else how religion had traumatized him from childhood. Which is strange to hear for me since I’ve been introduced to Christianity as a child, but don’t care much about religion or “hell” nowadays…

Xiaomi Router 4C with OpenWRT firmware.

It’s very cheap and can provide 100MB/s speed, but I didn’t trust the original Chinese firmware