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  • Regarding defederated, I think you can still see it, you just can subscribe and interact.

    For instance, let’s say .beehaw, .ml, and .world are all federated. A .beehaw user (BHU) visits a community hosted on .ml and posts a comment. All federated instances will see this and be able to interact with it. The only difference the BHU has in this instance is that they do not see the downvote counter. As far as I know, they will still see the count total and will still see if this total is a negative number. If the actual count is 7 up and 1 down (because .ml is the community host and has downvotes enabled), the BHU will only see a count of 6 with no explanation. Assuming they never see the count at 7, they will be none the wiser.

    In this example, if we only alter the host of the community by changing it to .beehaw, now when .ml and .world users engage with the post and comments, they do not have the option to downvote at all just like the BHU.

    If, in this example, the community is hosted on .ml, and a post is created by a .world user (WU), and one hour after creating the post .beehaw defederates from .world, nothing will appear to change immediately. Everything that happened up to the point of defederation is still synchronized and always will be. The only change is how interactions happen from the time defederation occurs. If the BHU replies to a comment from a WU from before defederation it will look completely normal to the BHU. The WU and all other users on the instance will never see the comment reply from the BHU and visa versa from this point forward.

    Now let’s fast forward a few weeks. The BHU visits a community on .ml and creates a new post. All .beehaw and .ml users see and interact with this post. However, all WU’s never see this post or interact with it. Now .ml mods start getting irritated because they keep seeing duplicate posts on popular topics coming from both BHU’s and WU’s with neither 3rd parties being the wiser. Meanwhile the BHU is part of a smaller community. They may be engaging with their favorite community on .ml, and may notice their posts to the community drop quickly and do not have much engagement. This BHU has no way of knowing that their posts do not have the exposure/visibility/engagement needed to remain visible. If both .ml and .beehaw have a similar number of users in the community that the BHU is posting in, all posts will have a similar number of comments and votes as seen by the BHU. If there are three times as many WU’s engaging with this community on .ml, the BHU will not see their votes, posts, or comments. However, the promotional algorithm that controls post visibility priority is hosted on .ml. This means the posts created by the BHU always have (loosely) around a quarter of the engagement of any created by .ml and .world, and therefore always drop from visibility quickly for anyone viewing by Hot or Top(timeframe).

    This is why I created my first comment here: The long term ramifications of defederation means it is not really fair or practical to engage heavily with outside communities as a BHU after defederation. Beehaw is now its own thing. It is not attempting to be a competing system with a similar number of users and exponential growth. There is nothing wrong with a BHU participating casually with other federated instances in communities they host, but you should be aware that you may be posting duplicate information and may be excluded from a much larger conversation.

    For instance, if a WU makes a comment on a .ml post after defederation, and this makes a giant tree with hundreds of comments, with every other comment coming from users of instances .beehaw is federated with, the BHU will not see any of this because the comment tree starts with a WU’s comment. The visiting BHU wonders why this post is at the top of their Top(day) view with 3 random comments and 5 votes while their post has 10 votes and 9 replies and is on page 2.

    If you think no one here understands the question you would be wrong.

    Sorry if my wording was misleading in any way. I was simply giving an example of a topic on my mind currently that I personally doubt I would get a useful reply if posted in a more general community. The question I chose is really pushing the limits of what pre-strike reddit was capable of using r/CS or r/Linux and these were much larger with a much higher probability of reaching someone that is also currently studying or working on OS schedulers. I have asked similar questions over the last couple of months on reddit and gotten replies from people that posted their own thesis work on the Linux CPU scheduler. I never assume a zero probability statistic for any community, and I am no expert on these things. I barely understand the subject well enough to state the example. I’m self taught after partial disability 9 years ago so I’m actually very insecure about my understanding of all of the subjects mentioned. I need the technical utility of a larger community knowledge base, but truly appreciate a place where I can say something like, “yeah, I’m insecure about it” and know I won’t get trolled for it. And a place where a dozen kids are not going to rant about someone really explaining the scope of an issue as best they can, even if a bit wordy.


  • I really like the group here at Beehaw and I spend a little more than half my time on this account. I dislike the trolls and lack of a positive community on .world, but the number of active users on .world by itself is around triple that of beehaw. I’d rather have a conversation here, but if I have a highly technical question, I’m not as likely to get a response here. I mean stuff, like if I asked how cache memory is managed differently in current mainline Linux when the CPU scheduler is set to round robin instead of CFS for a pinned process on a CPU set with complete isolation, I doubt I would get a response here. I won’t post stuff like advanced functional 3d prints and designs or the depths of designing in FreeCAD because this place doesn’t have that level of granularity.

    I’m afraid people here may not understand what defederation means here. It means you can see a lot of content where there are major conversations going on but you can not see them and they can not see you. Like I’m pretty sure .ml and beehaw are still federated. If someone on .ml creates a post, you can see it, comment, and interact only with instances your instance is federated with. There may or may not be a much larger conversation on the same post, but you can not interact with those people. There are a bunch of rude and PITA type people, but it is a question of what you are looking for.

    I have accounts on both. I like beehaw peeps much more, but my core interests that really define me are not really here. I can explore other interests here though and broaden my horizons too.

    I really hope this helps. If you are looking for more niche communities they are developing, but at a cost, and not as much here. There are bots, dead communities people started but don’t support. But like yesterday was the first big meme post on .world where it bled out into the periphery and was past 1.5k likes in a few hours… Someone asked “how can I stop pooping for 3 days, don’t ask why” in quite the eyebrow raiser. You can easily make an account on .world and check it out. The account creation process is automated with no effective wait.



  • I imagine the biggest challenge is some kind of central payment authority and dispute management. I won’t touch anything to do with Meta, and as a former 6 figure a year eBay seller, the total percentages and final margin for the seller are just not viable. Between tax, shipping, and fees I averaged 35% overhead with a 100% positive feedback. With a keystone product, that just doesn’t work. This should be more like 20% to make a sustainable business. I have no clue how anyone would build a more effective dispute and payment system but from my experience on eBay, around 5% of all customers are scammers.



  • I need to force myself into better habits. Like, I have pretty terrible control over eating junk, but I can completely control this at the grocery store. It’s halfway guilting myself, and half treating all items in isles as prechewed baby food that consists of over processed chemistry experiments. I try to only buy stuff that looks like it grows, and never purchase things that have complex chemical names or flavoring of any kind. It is not that I’m wearing a tin foil hat here. The bias aligns with healthy foods and the precognitive bias lessens my susceptibility to marketing. I take it to the extreme though. Like carbonated beverages are using the opposing sensations of sweetness and an acidic gas to create a new type of sensation novel to evolutionary adaptations. So, to get away from that addiction I started calling it what it is, acidic gas infused poop colored corn oil. Artificial sweeteners are basically zero calories because they don’t burn in a standardized flame test. So I think of them as fire extinguisher media. Childish, I know. It gets worse. I’m a grow ass adult paying a game of the floor is lava in a in a grocery store. Just don’t tell anyone.

    I tried doing all kinds of exercise junk for ages and it never stuck. Until I started riding a bicycle almost everywhere. It is probably a bit safer now (in the USA) than when I started because there are so many e-bikes going roadie speeds without the experience required to earn those speeds. Other than the hazards e-bikes create for other cyclists, they are paying a lot more of the blood tax that ultimately makes it safer for all cyclists. I’m partially disabled after 2 cars crashed into me in 2014, so weigh the risks. However in 2009 I was 350lbs, and by 2013 I was 190lbs. I got into racing and hardcore riding during that timeframe, but it all started by just being cheap and riding to work to save a few dollars. It may make your commute a bit longer, and it takes adapting but there are a ton of benefits and the quality of life improvement over car life is enormous. Driving on public roads is an unbelievably negative mental drag on life that you need to stop in order to really assess. The hard thing to overcome is preconceptions about road bikes and the clothing. Everyone has their hangups they overcome. The equipment is primarily functional not aesthetic. Wearing a proper road kit is nothing like regular clothes for many reasons, but for commuting the key is to cool down in the last couple of miles because the clothing is extremely efficient at evaporation. So long as you give yourself the time at the destination, you can be completely sweat free and presentable after a quick change of clothes. This makes your day better at work and lets you completely disconnect and unwind by the time you get home. It is the most positive lifestyle change I ever made. Exercise doesn’t need to be a chore you motivate yourself to do, it can be made into a part of basic life in general. I eventually collected the gear and commuted in all weather, except lightning and pounding rain. It really isn’t bad riding in the rain most of the time. It is like having an air conditioner really. If you’re riding hard, you can be just as wet either way. The only difference is watching out for painted pavement in any kind of turn to avoid going down.