

Okay…I don’t know what to tell you. This is a somewhat common phenomenon that you will see mentioned time and again in threads like this.


Okay…I don’t know what to tell you. This is a somewhat common phenomenon that you will see mentioned time and again in threads like this.


Thanks, and yes, I’m aware. If I could use a linux phone I definitely would and I plan to in the future once they’re more developed.


FF took privacy out of their policy
Nope, that was just a really silly context-free git diff that people seized on as if it meant something deep. They edited one piece of documentation to have different wording. Privacy is still very much a part of their branding.
why not just DDG.
Because that is still using the Chrome engine and thus allowing their monopoly to thrive. The literal only thing you can do to slow/stop Google’s stronghold on the web is to use another browser, not based on Chromium.


Yeah and it’s android. I know the whole spiel you want to give me, can we just not do that? You’re opting back into the Google ecosystem in the name of security, and I don’t choose that. Using Firefox is the only current option I have for avoiding using a browser controlled by Google. I’ve read the arguments about sandboxing and all and I don’t find it a compelling reason to use Google’s software when I can avoid it, particularly something as fundamental as a web browser.


But I am escaping the corporate browser monopoly. I’m good on that.


This isn’t uncommon. For a while Ticketmaster didn’t work, as one example.


I used ironFox until recently it started randomly timing out on websites that work fine everywhere else. So I’m back to FF on Android.


Nothing except a lot of websites are designed to only work well (or at all) on chrome. I use Firefox 99% of the time but occasionally I have to use a shitty website like that so I switch to ungoogled chrome, or ddg browser on android.


Kibbles and bits doesn’t want DOGpiling… Lol


Is there a flood? I’m on here a lot and have maybe noticed 2-3 over the last couple months. Maybe I’m just not paying attention


Thanks. The user I was talking to here was quite reasonable and that made it easy for me to reciprocate.


You might be onto something here. I’m not sure though. I have a feeling it’s complicated and something we won’t fully understand any time soon.


I thought were were discussing rationality. It seems like you are saying humans are not rational because they are also irrational, and I’m saying that the only reason we exist as we do today is because of lots of rational plans and decisions. Ultimately we’re both rational and irrational as a species. The fact that it’s much harder to argue that we’re rational in this current moment in time is what vexes me. It’s definitely a change. Facts made a much bigger impact 20 years ago.


I wasn’t very clear about the cooperation part. What I mean wasn’t that you have to be rational to cooperate. What I’m saying is that you have to be rational to plan out things that take dozens or hundreds of years and effectively utilize the cooperation of thousands of individuals who are all looking to solve the same problem.
You are using modern societal issues like inequality as evidence that we aren’t rational, but I dispute that strongly. Those problems used to be much, much worse, literally because the ruling class used a rational but evil plan to take care of themselves. Because of rational working class fighting back in a very organized and rational manner at a few different points in history, we made progress against them. We don’t have a 40 hour work week or OSHA in America because a bunch of emotional and angry public kept trying random things without a thought. We have those things from planning and hard work. Both are examples of being entirely rational.


We are not a logic, rational creature. Our brains are not machines for working out problems, they’re machines for telling stories to create a coherent narrative.
I gotta push back against this. It’s much more complicated than this. Humans have a complex brain, with some parts matching this description perfectly, and others that do not at all. If we were not capable of both being rational and prioritizing facts, we’d probably still be roughly the same as chimpanzees. Instead, we developed incredibly complicated systems for accomplishing long term goals, and throughout human history, cooperation based on rational thought has played a huge role in the direction our species took. Hell, without that ability, there probably wouldn’t have ever been a coherent ruling class. They wouldn’t have been able to put all the pieces in place to hoard wealth indefinitely.
What I see now as a distinct change is that rational thought just literally gets turned off at will, at any moment. In the past, 98% of people would watch a video of a crime and agree at least roughly on what happened. Now people literally seem to deny what their visual cortex perceives in favor of something they heard already. That is new.


You’re right about all of this. What I can’t fathom though – is that in the past, facts mattered. A lot. How did all of the propaganda literally erase that entirely? That’s what I cannot figure out. It’s not like the internet invented the concept of the lie. Before social media, at least most people would have some skepticism and if nothing else, ask their smart friend. How the hell did that go away?


I think the most important thing about this era is to understand how the fuck this happened. I have no answers and have never heard anything convincing. I think if humanity lasts long enough, hundreds of years of scholars will be trying to understand it. Most people on earth could’ve predicted most of this shit, yet no amount of spreading that knowledge made a fucking difference. If nothing else, this tells us how unbelievably irrational humans are.


The only thing I’m aware of which was predicted by anyone which he hasn’t done or tried to do is launch nukes at North Korea. Which he has threatened that. I think he’s enough of a psychopath that he is not above launching nukes if he ever finds himself in the position Hitler did. I mean why wouldn’t he? He’s shown us thousands and thousands of times that he cares about a singular person and that is himself.
But yeah, every fucking concern we had has been validated and then some. And these fucking zombies don’t care because they somehow can pretend he does nothing wrong, literally no matter what.
Never has there been a more disappointing time to have a working brain. All of this would’ve made way more sense before everyone could instantly check facts any time they wanted. Yet somehow, that ability made people less informed. I get that propaganda works and all, but I still will never understand how people could remain so adamantly ignorant when it’s genuinely so easy to learn and to stop being ignorant. I could even understand a world where people hate Trump’s specific actions but support a lot of the things he does. Would still be disappointing but it would make sense. Instead we live in a world where he can do anything and be loved for it no matter how heinous.
I would agree with all of that but it’s also a big ask to expect people to completely miss like 90% of the shows they want to attend, which is how it is where I live. The real solution is what the Biden administration was starting, which was regulating those sons of bitches. Too bad the current landscape is hopelessly fascist/Nazi as fuck…