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  • I’ll give you the real explaination a lot of people have with the left, I hope you hear it but I doubt you will.

    Haha I was right! You’re missing pretty much all of what I’m saying.

    fighting an ever drifting balance, this was how our founding fathers designed our democracy to work.

    This quote is great because I was just complaining about how people use this as an argument. Which I think is worthless. I think something like STV is a much better system than what the founding fathers came up with. Just because the founding fathers said something doesn’t mean it is the best way. If fact saying because the founding fathers did anything in itself is meaningless and not an argument for what should be done.


  • No. I’ll give you the real explaination a lot of people have with the left, I hope you hear it but i doubt you will. This issue is the lefts inability to have a conversation with someone about a wide range of topic. The inability for a person to not hold an extreme position, 100% without question is unacceptable to a lot of people on the left that gets in the way of issues like raising taxes.

    This can arise from many issues. Maybe someone on the left will say “We should have an open border policy. Being born in a different country isn’t a persons fault, anyone should be able to go anywhere in the world with no issues” then if you raise, cultural or economic issues you get the equivalent of “reeeeeee you’re just a racist. Why don’t you fuck off racist reeeeee”. Or someone who has gone through 10 years of male puberty shouldn’t play sport with women because it isn’t fair. That topic is not allowed you’re just a transphobe obviously. When you say something should be avaliable to all people in a country irrelevant of sex or race. Then the left say you don’t understand some weird metric to determining why one race or sex should get something at some level above another sex or race. Then the whole million different types of genders, but gender doesn’t exist, then the inability to group things by sex which is something both sides agree on. The left quite frequently talk about the far right. But I think the far left a lot of people have an issue with but they are strung in with the left and it’s bad for that movement.

    It’s not the lefts views on economics. For a lot policies I am very left, in fact Im probably more left than most people. But how that plays out on an individual basis talking to a left leaning person is like talking to someone mental. They hold views devoid of reasoning and then just resort to attacking a person. Whereas when you talk to someone on the right it’s more “I think taxes should be lower so people keep more of their hard earned cash”

    [me] “I disagree because I think the government should take more money and use that to do things that the public cannot, like build infrastructure or equal education for all”

    “The government is inefficient. I get what you are saying but I disagree. If I have worked hard for my money and I choose to spend a lot of that on giving my kid an education then I should be allowed to, it’s my money. State schools suck and I want my kid in a private. If people want to go to higher education then they can get a loan. I’m not responsible if someone wants to go to uni for a shitty degree. If its worth while then they will make money back and pay off the loan. If its not worthwhile I wont go and waste theirs or anyone elses money”

    Me " I disagree but it is interesting to have a conversation with someone with different view and I see why you think that"

    Right wing" it was nice having a conversation with you too"

    Literally never talked to a right wing person that brought religion up once so I personally have no idea what you are talking about and that has absolutely nothing to do with my view I was talking about. Other people have different experience I’m sure, but I’ve never seen it.

    As for your last point I’m not. I’m saying the left are isolating themselves.

    The issue is we need more parties. I mean this as for the people.We need a party that is left wing economically but need a party that is right wing for what a lot of people unhelpfully group as “common sense issues” or we will just end up with right wing policies.


  • Wanderer@lemm.eeto> Greentext@lemmy.mlWhat would you do?
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    8 months ago

    Yea pretty much. But it’s more africa, Middle East and Indian subcontinent. East Asians and Eastern Europeans can also be included but not generally or to the same level.

    It just seemed in the last 10 years or so everyone was pro immigration and called everyone racist that wasn’t pro huge immigration. Well after huge immigration it seems everyone thinks its a bad idea. Problem is its cheap labour and the government’s don’t want to stop it for themselves or their mates in business.

    I think a lot of that and sort of how crazy the left is, is turning people to the right. Wondered if that sort of mentality is the same in America.

    It not so much people aren’t left leaning. It’s just immigration is a big issue and the left are very difficult to talk to on certain topics.






  • Wanderer@lemm.eeto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneRule of 400
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    Too much for people to handle.

    Most people don’t give a shit about what people think. They could think they are a fairy for all anyone cares. Most people don’t even care if you hold the view that gender is a social construct and women aren’t better at cooking/cleaning just because they are women and men aren’t the only one that’s like sports because they are men. No one really cares about anything like that.

    But most people look at women and look at men and say “yea those are two different types of things we could separate. One is called women the other is men. One has a pussy, one has a cock”

    That’s what they believe and someone saying “they believe they should be in the other group.” Fine but it doesn’t make them the other group, the groups aren’t based on believe








  • I work in continuous improvement, think Henry ford stuff.

    If the workers had their say nothing would improve and the business would be a disaster.

    “No not doing that” “why?” “Well we always did it this way and it works so we aren’t changing” " the other way has been proven to work better" “doesn’t matter we always done it this way so we aren’t changing”

    “We are working 9-5 no more shift work” “the machines will idle for 2/3rds of the day. That’s horribly inefficient and are products will be uncompetitive and we will get closed down”

    “We aren’t using that new machine” “why it is digital and uses machines to create accuracy 10x better than a person.” “I spent 40 years learning how to do it manually that’s the way I’m doing it and all the new kids are going to learn when I teach them”

    “Look at this machine it makes 10x the output as a traditional team” “no it uses 9 people instead of 10. Someone will get made redundant we aren’t using it”