It’s all good. I was just wondering if there was something in an apocryphal text I didn’t know about.

I ment alternative news, not mainstream, that should be obvious.

How would that be obvious when it was all over mainstream news?

I don’t live in the banana republic, even there the right wing Dem party and lib media fully supported her.

I don’t live in a “Banana Republic” either and I’m not sure that has anything to do with my claim about US News.

This is literally my statement: " It has nothing to do with being a teenager but with her anti-capitalist stance "

Yeah, I get that now that you have clarified. Did you expect me to divine the future to learn what you meant before I replied initially?

And it does contradict your “it’s bcs she’s a teenager now”.

Jesus fucking Christ. For the THIRD (3rd) time now, she is NOT a teenager any longer. She aged, just like everyone else did. Time continued to pass for her. She ‘grew up’. She is now 22 years old, which is NOT a teenager. Now that she is 22 years old, she is no longer considered a Teen. She was born in 2003. 2025-2003 = 22 years old. I’m not sure how much more plainly I can say the same thing.

Do you normally have this hard of a time comprehending the English language?

If you knew about her still being in the news, your statement about how you never hear about her anymore makes little sense.

She’s not a teenager any longer, that was my point. It was fairly unusual for a 15 year old to be so outspoken and articulate about the problem, which is why she used to get a lot of coverage.

Now she is just one young lady among millions who are outspoken about the issue, and the only thing that really distinguishes her from her peers is that she got famous for it at a young age.

Almost all mainstream news in the US is right wing, and I was clearly speaking about why they don’t report on her as much now as they originally did.

I’m sure that her anti capitalist stance has a lot to do with her not being in the news as much, nothing I said contradicts that.

From the way you worded your original statement it seemed like you were saying that the reason you don’t hear from her now was because she wised up and stopped doing it, not that she realized capitalism was the problem and that caused the media to stop reporting on her.

Now that I know what you meant it’s clear we are on the same side of the issue, so I’m not sure why you are insisting that I’m ‘completely wrong’ about it.

I generally agree with your point (although I think we can hold corporations accountable and make whatever changes to our lifestyle that will help at the same time) but

There’s a reason you don’t hear about little Greta anymore, she got wise.

She was in the news just last month for trying to get humanitarian aid to Palestine. She was on a ship that tried to bypass Israel’s naval blockade and the Israelis seized the ship and it’s cargo and eventually deported the activists.

She’s still very active in her environmental activism as well.

You many not hear about her as much now that she’s a young woman and not a teenager, but your implication that she ‘got wise’ is incorrect. The mainstream media doesn’t like to report on her unless they can somehow make her look bad, because they don’t want to remind people that climate change is happening or encourage young people to follow her lead.

That’s a good point, I worded it poorly. I didn’t mean to imply that the adults didn’t ‘believe’ it and just told that to their children. I think that it was more the case that they believed in the spiritual truths behind the stories and not necessarily that they were literal, although I can’t say for certain that was the case in all instances. Maybe some of them did believe it literally or didn’t really make a distinction between spiritually true and literally true. It’s not like they had the scientific knowledge to know what the alternative was.

I think it’s natural to try and explain the world around you, and if you don’t have the tools to know what is really going on- then yeah you will probably make some crazy guesses. And then if you tell it to your children as if it were fact, then they might not question it seeing as how you are a trusted elder.

I think my point though was that it really isn’t what I would call ‘stupid’ to do something like create a silly myth and pass it on. For me where it becomes stupid is when you insist it’s the literal truth and that other people believe it, or when you refuse to update your worldview in the case where better evidence comes along because you are a zealot about your mythology.

a dozen other equally stupid myths

I think there is some missing context here that makes this an unfair comparison. In general, tribal cultures didn’t treat their creation myths as literal fact. It was more of a poetic way to explain to the children of the tribe where their people had come from and give the tribe a sense of identity. Since they didn’t have Science to actually explain how they got there, this seems as reasonable as anything honestly.

If someone from a different nation were to come visit and relate their account of creation, they wouldn’t argue with the person and insist that their creation myth was the ‘correct’ one and that the visitor was wrong. They were a different people so it makes sense they were ‘created’ in a different way. Since neither was attempting to explain things in a literal way, the two different stories weren’t incompatible with each other.

It’s likely that the creation myths of the ancient Hebrew people were looked at in a similar way at first, they were a tribal people after all. At some point (likely to do with the Agricultural Revolution, but that’s a whole different topic) they started conquering and subjugating the neighboring tribes and insisting those people adopt their spiritual practice, that’s when the whole deal of insisting it was the literal truth came about.

In the bible Yahweh and the Hebrews spend a lot of time worrying about what ‘gods’ the other tribes worshiped. Much more so than would be rational if you considered Yahweh to be the one, true, only and actual God. The reason that so much time was spent on it was because Yahweh was just a story, just like all the other Gods and you had to go out of your way to get people to follow along with the narrative that that one story was ‘true’, otherwise who would believe it?

So while it’s easy for us to look back on the beliefs of tribal cultures and dismiss them as stupid, we are misunderstanding the purpose and intent of these stories. It’s only ‘stupid’ if you take it literally. In context it was a lot less dumb and probably somewhat necessary to a harmonious life.

We have the benefit of pretty much knowing exactly how humans and the world got here, so we were never in a situation of having one of our children come up to us and ask how we got here and only being able to answer with “I have no idea.” That would have been the situation that tribal societies would have been in if you were expecting them to give a scientific answer to the question. So it’s really not the case that their creation myths were “Stupid”, but more it was the best system they could possibly have had at the time.

who were fucking each other anyway, so whatevs

Where are you getting that from? The only thing the bible says about Lot’s daughters when the mob shows up was that they were virgins.

After God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah (and Lot’s wife) and they were living in a cave in the hills, the daughters get Lot drunk and take turns having sex with him, but this was more a way to explain the origin of the Ammonites and the Moabites in an unflattering way than anything else. The bible almost exclusively portrays women in a terrible way, so the fact that they seemingly raped their dad likely wasn’t the point of the story.

Right? Idgaf what happens to my corpse when I die, I won’t be able to. They can throw it in the dumpster for all I care.

I used to work with this lady and at first we got along great. Then one day for reasons I cant fathom or remember the subject of the afterlife got brought up during a break period. She was talking to a couple of my coworkers about it. I didn’t say anything because I had nothing to add the the conversation. Then she asked me directly so I told her I didn’t believe in the afterlife.

She was stunned. She was all like “Where do you think you will go when you die?” I said I didn’t think I would go anywhere, I would just cease to exist. She was like “You HAVE to believe you will go somewhere!” I asked “Why?” She had no answer for that but she stopped speaking to me entirely. Even when it was about something related to work.

Shortly after my boss assigned her to work with me. She would hardly acknowledge me when I spoke to her, and communication was kind of important to the job. I finally asked her what her problem was. In the most snarky tone she could muster she asked me what my problem was. I said my problem was that she was acting like a bitch.

Of course she ran and told the boss, and I had to go with a meeting with him and his two bosses. None of them respected the difference between me calling her a bitch, and saying that she was acting like a bitch. I got wrote up for it.

Really? Are they decent? Where are they coming from?

but what if the slaves are racially distinct and portrayed as weaklings and ugly?

Oh well that’s clearly different, especially if they are outspoken about how much they love serving their masters. I mean, it’s not like there is any way to magically manipulate how beings think in the Harry Potter universe.

I hope you also explain to them that slavery isn’t good actually.

What an amazing fucking hypocrite you are. It’s not surprising, it’s what liberals are good at.

You are so quick to blame the Left for your Performative Pig not winning the election, but take no responsibility whatsoever for putting that piece of shit on the ballot in the first place. Before that it was a senile old man you were convinced was going to save us. You guys are the ones blaming everyone but yourselves.

You’d rather burn the country down and have people fight the fight you want

It’s you that keep on spouting the lie that Leftists are just sitting around waiting on a bunch of fucking Libs to fight for us. Literally no one has said that but you. That makes perfect sense, seeing as how the Libs haven’t done jack shit other than put ‘Vote Blue No Matter Who’ bumper stickers on their cars and going into a booth once every 4 years so they can get the coveted “I voted” badge of honor.

It makes even more sense considering the libs done everything in their power to ensure that it’s only the cops and military that actually have effective weapons to fight with. All you can do is capitulate, lick boots, and act as if inanimate objects are the problem and not the capitalist pigs you keep voting for, so of course we are just sitting around expecting you cowards to actually fight when the time comes. /s because I’m sure you need it spelled out for you.

If and when peacefully protesting inevitably fails and it comes time to defend ourselves, you can bet your ass it will be Leftists doing the fighting while the Blue losers are writing strongly worded letters to their senators and cowering in their basements.

you wouldn’t even walk to the voters booth and vote against literal nazis.

And again with the blaming everyone but yourself bullshit. FYI I and most other Leftists by an large did show up to vote for the lesser evil because unlike libs, we are willing to do harm reduction in the sort term, while still possessing the ability to look down the road and see whats coming. You guys want to take the one or two people online who didn’t vote and use them to blame the entire left for your failure to get a candidate that could actually win against literal Nazis on the ballot.

So pat yourself on the back for ‘doing your part’ by voting for a pro slavery cop instead of Hitler 2, it sure really saved all us Lefties who were waiting for our blue saviors to help us. Oh wait, it didn’t do shit.

Are you seriously unable to differentiate between someone saying that we shouldn’t be so quick to take violence off the table, and “I have a plan and the means to immediately begin using violence this second?”

Violence and Non Violence are tools, you don’t throw out your screwdriver when you get a hammer and you don’t try hammering in a screw without trying the screwdriver first.

You can prefer to resolve things peacefully while recognizing that it likely won’t work at the same time.

If someone says 'I think all people should have healthcare" do you respond with 'Go become a Doctor then!"

The far left are pussies for not taking action, and the Liberals are far worse because they are half the reason we are in this mess. Y’all want to prop up Capitalism and Corporations, this is what you get. It doesn’t matter if you asked the ruling class to play nice with the power you handed them or not, it’s not our fault you are so naive.