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I don’t get your 1st issue. That statement was based on statistics offered throughout the blurb. Are you claiming those statistics are wrong or inherently racist?

I’m aware of the original comment. I also agree that Lemmy can’t be referred to as self hosted in the same way that Plex can, for example. I simply think they meant to say “can be” self hosted instead of “is”.

As far as I know, they never claimed Lemmy was entirely self-hosted. Their intention was likely to say it can be, in which case decentralized would’ve been more clear…

I’m hosting and using my own instance personally, but the important part is that it’s decentralized and federated. Think of it like email - businesses often have their own email servers they use to communicate with yours, unlike on Facebook or Reddit where all of it happens on their servers.

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I’m arguing the protocol was designed this way for a reason. Each instance is meant to be able to implement their own policies and defederate who they want, exactly what Beehaw is doing here. The idea that this is against the spirit of the protocol is entirely inaccurate. Hope that clears it up.

Even if the big players choose not to accept mail from us, we can accept mail from each other.

Yes, but my point was that those operators make up the vast majority of email accounts. Yes, all of your smaller servers can communicate with each other, but that doesn’t matter when like 99.5% of the time, your target recipient will NOT be another small server.

Yes, email and ActivityPub are both decentralized, but that’s about where the similarities end. Email, as a decentralized protocol, has been an abject failure. It is well known that big players DO actively block email from smaller servers often. Your individual experience is irrelevant. (For more details, see the thread at https://twitter.com/cfenollosa/status/1566484145446027265?lang=en)

The idea that email is “truly open” demonstrates a ton of ignorance on this topic. Email is entirely controlled by like less than 20 large operators, who often completely ignore email from smaller servers.

Email is literally one of the worst examples of an open protocol. The fact that this person thinks for a second it is even comparable to ActivityPub in terms of openness should completely undermine their credibility in your mind.

As much as I don’t think the pact will do much, it’s their right to defederate whichever instances they want. The protocol is still “open and interoperable” and this does not change that - in fact, this move is only possible because of that openness.

Your argument only sounds kinda sane when applied to Meta, but the same could be said about instances made by bad actors (spammers, for example). Please do further research before commenting on this.

Thanks for the post! Just defederated from my instance too, they violate our code of conduct.

No instance should allow misinformation or hate under the guise of “free speech”.