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  • dragontamer@lemmy.worldtoAnime@lemmy.ml*Permanently Deleted*
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    11 months ago

    Chrono Crusade is maybe the closest you’ll get

    Chrono Crusade is a Miko x Yokai adventure story except the Miko is a Nun and the Yokai is a “Demon”.

    Mikos are known to use archery to defeat Yokai. No wait, its a nun and westerners use guns, right? And they meet all kinds of Yokai… like good yokai, bad yokai, friendly yokai. No wait, western culture doesn’t have Yokai, they call them Demons. So good demons, bad demons, friendly demons…

    Nothing wrong with that :-) Switching up the setting is fine but its not especially “Christian” in theme.


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    You expect a country of Buddhists and Shinto to make a Christian anime?

    There’s Evangelion, which is closer to how we Westerners take Buddhist holy texts and say random techno-mumbo-jumbo in our SciFi stories (ex: Stargate).

    Similarly, Angel Beats takes the Christian idea of Purgatory except it’s all Buddhist / Zen enlightenment based because Japan doesn’t get Christianity lol.

    There is Death Note, where some characters are explicitly Catholic and a few Christian references pop up kind of elegantly. (L washes the feet of Light Yagami for example). I wouldn’t call the plot especially ‘Christian’ otherwise but this does deserve mention as an Anime that at least got the meaning behind the Christian references they chose.

    Digimon Season 1 might be the closest thing to Christian. Kids get powers as they invoke the power of Virtues like Courage or Faith. Two Digimon turn into literal Angels and one of the bad guys is ‘Devilmon’, who was weak to the angel Digimon. Season4 has a fallen angel named Lucifer (well… Lucemon. All Digimon have a -mon on the end) who goes evil as well. Season4 is more random / less elegant with the Christian references as Cherubimom and Seriphmon (angels) don’t really represent Christian ideas anymore IMO.

    But Season1 Digimon was the closest you’ll get IMO

    But this is really rare. Christianity is treated as an exotic religion / weird Character trait more often than not (much like random Buddhists show up in Hollywood to round out a cast or add a bit of exotic flair).


    I dunno. Hellsing Ultimate? Irish Catholic priest is pissed off at a Protestant Vampire who works for the Queen in the 1990s… is referencing ‘The Troubles’ too soon?

    Obviously not a Christian story given the huge amounts of hyperviolence. But the Christian references were at least kinda-sorta correct…


  • dragontamer@lemmy.worldto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneCodpiece rule
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    11 months ago

    14th century

    16th century and it makes a big difference.

    16th century means you are fighting guns on the battlefield, though halberds were still used cause the guns were very slow.

    But a bullet will pass through you if you were unarmored. If you had armor, the armor catches the bullet and then stabs you, so now you can’t even remove the armor anymore. So it’s worse… The bullet AND armor is embedded inside you.


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    11 months ago

    but how do you explain the exposed leg, that’s terrible protection.

    I dunno. Go ask the Landsknechts

    I think we look back at history and realize these mercenaries had increasingly audacious costumes to stick out, possibly to better make a name of themselves. But… its historical. That’s literally how Landsknechts dressed.

    Given the mercenary / audacious ways of fighting, it is quite possible Landsknechts used crazy weapons like Zweihanders to increase their odds of being remembered on the battlefield. They were grossly more skilled than everyone else on the battlefield, so it wasn’t about optimizing fighting anymore, but instead optimizing the chance you’re remembered by the local kings so that you’d get hired in the next fight.

    But I’m not a specialist of this era. You’d probably have to ask someone who studied specific guilds / mercenaries back then for more precise details.

    Not to mention that giant sword being held like that

    Dude, that’s literally a historical Landsknecht pose.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landsknecht

    Zweihanders were heavy, people rested them on the shoulder a lot of the time. How else were you supposed to use these things?

    EDIT: Note, this Zweihander here is STILL shorter than a typical Pike. So even with a weapon of this size, you’re fighting with less range than the typical 1500s opponent. Bigger == better was a thing at this time.

    Zweihanders were only popular for a few dozen years, but their absurd size made them a historical curiosity. Real soldiers (“Double Soldiers”, because they were paid double a regular soldier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelsöldner) used them. You needed a sword that big to deal with the increasingly large pikes and halberds of the 1500s, though gunpower was beginning to really take off at this time.

    If you’ve got any HEMA friends, I do recommend grabbing a Zweihander from them and feeling it. Its surprisingly nimble, not too heavy. But the bulky size makes it difficult to rest. Its a very fast weapon due to its size and surprisingly light swingweight. I’d say that poleaxes (like Glaives) or other “axe” shapes on the end of a stick felt heavier to me., though they probably weigh about the same. A sword just naturally swings faster due to less weight on the end (though a poleaxe will have more power / armor penetration capabilities).


  • dragontamer@lemmy.worldto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneCodpiece rule
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    I did a google and it sounds like this artist is “vanishlily”, and made the drawing a few months ago.

    https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/89235711


    I’m not seeing this comic in that artist’s profile. Its possible that this comic / meme came after this artist’s drawings of “Landsknecht girl”.

    Yeah, this is someone who has studied Medieval Armor. I can’t say I’m an expert on this but I’m getting vibes of real armor from these drawings, its pretty cool… albeit in anime-style and some exaggerations for artistic effect, but I can kinda-sorta place some of these armor drawings within a time period.

    Like I can instantly recognize this as a Knight Templar.


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    History is big and it’s hard to generalize.

    I’m not saying all kings were like this. I’m saying some kings, and some real armor, was like this. That’s the difference.

    And since we have at least an entire century where codpieces were in fashion, it’s possible that that particular era was more about just wearing normal looking armor. Because obviously codpieces are normal in that weird time and likely weren’t seen as a sex symbol. So my statements don’t even generalize to all codpieces.


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    11 months ago

    Bikini Armor’s equivalence is Chip-and-Dale Chippendales armor. (EDIT: Oh snap, I confused the Disney cartoon with the strippers, lulz)


    Boob Armor, IMO, is equivalent to Codpieces. People sexualizing armor, because sex is that much more awesome when its made into metal.

    Like, look at this Greek Armor.

    Its obviously there to demonstrate masculinity and look sexy on the battlefield (or play-battlefield / parades / ceremonies).


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    I think this depends on the time period, location, and individual King/General.

    If you don’t mind, I’ll choose the time period, location, and King to prove my point. Yes, this gets rather specific but… I choose Sigismund II Augustus’s armor as a 15-year-old. King of Poland.

    Many kings never took to the battlefield though and only wore their armor in parades and celebrations. I bet you this piece of armor never saw a single battle. No one would seriously put a 15-year-old inexperienced King into a battle.

    This king was also rich enough to afford not just one suit of armor, but multiple. There’s a lot of parade armor / ceremonial armor. Now… these don’t have sexualized codpieces on them but the ostentatious / fashion statements they made is obvious. These were clearly designed to make the wearer look good.


    Codpieces were either worn by that like ~100 year period where they were lol in fashion, or by “Big Dick” (so to speak) Kings (Henry VIII, and the like). There’s a certain personality type that really just wants to emphasize their penis and they’ll spend good money back then to make a massive codpiece.

    Henry VIII saw battle, and likely in that armor. But in his later years, he was a rather sickly man (gout, etc. etc.), so I’m sure his generals made sure he was never really in danger in those later military campaigns.


    Given the ceremonial / parade / and even play/costume/theater armors that existed in the Medieval Era, if more females were in power… some fashionista would have looked for ways to accentuate her femininity, much like how Henry VIII or other kings did so with their codpieces to portray manliness. Not necessarily “for battle”, but for a parade, ceremony, or other such event. Not all suits of armor were for battle.


    EDIT: As for “battle”, remember that these 1500+ era armor pieces coexisted with Muskets. That meant that if you were hit by a musket while in armor, the armor deformed and pierced you, meaning you’d have to cut the armor off before you can remove the armor piece. There was little military use of armor in this era, a lot of it was just cultural momentum / status symbol purposes from an European perspective. (Armor remained useful vs the Aztecs or other cultures without guns).

    So yeah, armor made bullets worse, it was better for the bullet to pass through you than to be stabbed by your own armor while getting shot.


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    11 months ago

    Every fake-historian complaining about unrealistic boob armor in fantasy games needs to look up historical codpieces.

    Armor was a status symbol and includes sexualized designs to demonstrate the girth of your penis prowess. If females were in a historical armor setting, I bet you boob armor would have become at least as big a thing as codpieces were.

    I mean, the ancient Greeks painted abs and male nipples in their armor, lol. Gotta be sexy while fighting a war, at least if you are in the back just commanding people. It’s not like these Kings or Generals really saw someone swing a sword at them or needed actually functional armor. It’s just shiny metal proving you had more money than the other soldiers in many cases.