Blah, blah, blah…
Oh, good to hear.
Also… you shouldn’t base your political know-how on Mad Max movies.
Blah, blah, blah…
Oh, good to hear.
Also… you shouldn’t base your political know-how on Mad Max movies.
am I going to look up which one that is?
Oh, don’t worry… I’ll do it for you.
Aaaaand, again… maybe you need to stop basing your political know-how on Mad Max movies.
See?
Just to be clear… is this what you are referring to?
Aaaaand, again… maybe you need to stop basing your political know-how on Mad Max movies.
Aaaaand, again… maybe you need to stop basing your political know-how on Mad Max movies.
Sooooo, again… maybe you need to stop basing your political know-how on Mad Max movies.
Ok… we’ll get back to the point.
Soooo… maybe you need to stop basing your political know-how on Mad Max movies.
So far, you’ve offered nothing to justify the existence of police except canned liberalsm and worn-out media tropes based on pure copaganda.
Do you have anything else you wanna try running past me or will that be it?
He had to discuss because he wasn’t allowed to just bulldoze a village
Yes, he could - it is simply cheaper and easier for him to work within a legal framework that is already designed to benefit him at the expense of the people he wishes to exploit. To use your parlance - you gracefully ignore that part.
WithoutWith laws andwithoutwith police someone who is stronger than you and/or has more resources than you will just fuck you over as this is literally the current system we exist under right now.
Fixed that for you.
people by believing they would side by side storm Elon Musks factory, take his stuff
Yes. We would. That is why capitalists invented police.
give his community weapons and shoot everyone down who comes near his property.
You mean… literally the history of how the institution of police was invented?
“Great, now I can finally get that nice house I always wanted that my neighbour is living in.”
There won’t be any police around to help him do exactly that, would there? He’ll have to deal with the community first… who now has all the guns - as you envisioned.
To be fair, all entertainment media carries a political subtext, and Mad Max Fury Road had an interesting one - which is why it’s one of the few AAA movies made in the last decade that’s actually worth watching all the way to the end - but that’s not the kind of thing you can discuss with the “if-you-want-anarchy-go-to-Sudan” crowd.
Shall I go on?
Feel free… I will happily point out the gaping flaws in your reasoning with any example you could care to provide.
Elon Musk had to discuss endlessly with the authorities
Of course he did - he knows the people in authority are his friends… so why wouldn’t he? It’s the people in authority that protects his exploitation… it’s literally the reason capitalists invented police. Why wouldn’t Elon work within the system that is designed to benefit him at the expense of poor people?
When people protested he had to wait until the protest was over
So you are saying that it was protestors - not police - that was putting up resistance to the rich’s exploitation?
You don’t say.
he know police and judge would arrest him.
No, they wouldn’t. Do you see police choke-holding millionaires and billionaires to death in the streets? Yes? No?
Another example
The exact same factors apply. This capitalist didn’t work within the very system that protects capitalist exploitation… and got a mild little slap on the wrist for it as opposed to a death sentence - which is a de facto risk for any poor person forced into an encounter with the police.
Who is going to stop rich or more powerful people if you abolish police and state?
Again… police and state exists to enable the rich’s exploitation - not prevent it. This means the assumption underpinning your question isn’t grounded in reality but in fiction.
Why do you think billionaires aren’t currently just doing whatever they like?
I hate to be the one to break the news to you… they already are. See this…
bulldozer down whatever buildings are in his way
Show me a building that Elon couldn’t just buy with his pocket change - and then bulldoze - whenever he damn well felt like it. He could easily buy the building you’re in right now - and guess who would be the ones throwing you out of that building for him?
Quite naive.
Then show me how the police prevents Elon from doing whatever he wants. This should be easy for you - if there is any evidence to back up what it is you are saying.
Cool, so then let’s get back to the point.
Lol! After all this, you want to “get back” to the point?
So then what exactly does anarchy in any way have to do with mad max the film in which you referenced.
It doesn’t. That’s why I said…
You need to stop basing your political know-how on Mad Max movies.
Get it now?
bulldozer down whatever buildings are in his way
Do you really think the police would stop a billionaire from doing whatever they felt like? Really?
I guess you don’t know why they invented police in the first place?
person or a group from simply taking whatever they like from others?
When was the last time you saw police stopping the rich from stealing everything that isn’t nailed down?
so who’s at fault for what tangent?
That’ll be you. It was your tangent, remember?
Admit what
That you went off on an unjustified tangent.
A liar too,
Nope. This is a pretty low-energy conversation.
You could just admit to it, you know… and spare yourself the pointless aggravation.
I guess that just went over your head entirely?
You know what? That’s fine. I’m not going to be spending too much energy on this.
No-one is qualified to make decisions for that many people, Clyde - the limits of hierarchical power systems is pretty evident.
Do you really think Biden himself decides which pothole in your street will be fixed today? Decentralizing power is not some arcane mystery.