Well that escalated quickly

Rome wasn’t built in a day

I have some people here telling me I’m a leftist, and others right.

Guess that kind of proves my point I’m not really left or right

I said I wasn’t left or right, that’s it

Well, didn’t I say I was neither left or right?

Not really, some of those things yes but others no.

I’m not making an excuse, I gave you my opinion on why it is the way it is and why politics in the US are screwed up.

The other element is not all Democrat politicians are the same the same way not all Republican ones are either.

The problem is there is constantly less moderation in political positions in both parties. But if you think Presidents like Eisenhower and Trump are exactly the same just because they are Republicans, or Senator Masto vs Pelosi just because they are Democrats you’re being ignorant.

The world isn’t black and white either

No you

The Nazi thing is extreme, but I get what you are saying.

I’m also not disagreeing with your overall message but it’s my opinion on why the current political scope in the US is the way it is.

I vote for certain stances in a candidate, and how they prioritize them as a rough guide on how I vote. It also depends on what office I’m voting for too, as well as what level of government.

It actually is.

That may be the way you see it, but I don’t.

I suppose this is where you call me a Nazi because I disagree with you?

Why, because most people vote for a party and side with a party, not issues.

I’m not saying that’s right, in fact I feel the exact opposite. That’s just my observation of the world we live in in why that disconnect exists.

With the left or the right?

A few things I side with: universal healthcare, reduced military spending, gay rights, legalization of marijuana, gun rights, reduced government spending in the business sector, reducing/overhauling the current farm bill, increased infrastructure spending.

Since you need to know? I said that because that’s how the person I was replying to put it, not me.

So are we talking politicians or are we talking regular citizens? Because there’s a big difference.

I read somewhere that over 80% of Americans were against the total abortion ban, for example. Another is an overwhelmingly majority of the country thinks career politicians are a bad idea, yet neither party does.

The problem is not the average American’s views. Very few are extreme. The problem is our politicians are progressively more extreme.

Most people vote Democrat or Republican and are biased one way or the other. If you want to commit career suicide as a politician, do anything that alienated the party you are closer aligned with. I hear people all the time, whether they voted Democrat or Republican, say aiming along the lines of “I don’t agree with a lot of things about (who they voted for) , but it’s better than the alternative!”

And that, in a nutshell, is why career politicians are killing the US.

So the only reason anyone buys a gun is to kill minorities?

And while the scope is small vs even smaller gov in the US, the difference is still there. To say it doesn’t matter is frankly ignorant.

The point is you’re talking in extremes. And I will agree extreme liberals are better than extreme conservatives, the world isn’t that black and white, especially when you talk about voting for anyone besides President.

Eh…

So while I do agree the extremism is much more dangerous on the right than it is the left… 99% of people don’t fall into these extreme groups anyway.

Maybe that’s just my world view but that’s how it is with people I know/have met in real life.

Both sides argue as if the entire other side is all extremists but the reality is most people fall somewhere in the middle, especially people younger than 50

So what if someone doesn’t want to kill minorities but wants to buy guns and wants limited government involvement in the economy?

It’s not even that black and white, because the term democrat and republican as far as political views mean much different things when it comes to different ages, backgrounds, area, etc.

For example, I tend to lean right when it comes to economics, however I do support things like public healthcare. Also, I lean pretty far left on social issues.

There are people all over the spectrum on all sorts of issues. I can see where it bothers people to be labeled one or the other because that’s not really who they are. I truly try to break candidates down by what their stances are and pick who most aligns with what I believe. I can honestly say every ballot I’ve ever cast I’ve voted for both Democrats and Republicans.

The only people I have a problem with is people that try to tell me I’m stupid because i didn’t vote all one way or the other.