• ceenote@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I would guess for most Americans it’s “there’s France, there’s Spain, there’s Germany, there’s Italy, and… The rest.”

    And they could probably find the UK on a map but not be able to tell you the difference between the UK, England, and Great Britain.

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      7 days ago

      And they could probably find the UK on a map but not be able to tell you the difference between the UK, England, and Great Britain.

      I feel like those distinctions don’t really matter much to those outside the UK.

      UK is the whole shebang. England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, and most of the smaller islands in the British Isles. I can’t remember if the Crown Dependencies and the Overseas Territories are considered part of the United Kingdom or if the UK just has sovereignty over them.

      Great Britain is the largest of the British Isles. It’s home to Scotland, England, and Wales.

      England is one of the countries that makes up the United Kingdom. It’s on Great Britain.

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        7 days ago

        Sadly even that’s probably more than the average American would know; using ‘England’ as a shorthand for the U.K. as a whole is far more common than it should be.

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          7 days ago

          Try living in the Netherlands and hear every Briton referring to your country as “Holland”.

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          7 days ago

          Oh I know that’s more than the average American would know. But I’m not sure how much it matters. I have family who are very well educated, and have been to the UK. One of whom even studied at Cambridge. I polled them all on this question and none could articulate it entirely. Though most had some part of it correct. Everyone in this group knew England is part of the UK.

          That’s not to say they’re dumb or anything, it’s just that that knowledge isn’t really important to the average American. There’s not really a reason for them to know it.

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            7 days ago

            While small details like that might not be important to the average American, I think that most Americans having little to no personal exposure to anything outside the U.S. is in part responsible for many of the bad electoral outcomes that the country has had.

            Someone from Utah taking a roadtrip to Idaho isn’t as culturally enriching as someone from Czechia visiting Portugal. While Europe’s cultural diversity and geography make such contact easier, it’s a shame that many Americans base their worldview around nationalism.