• Alteon@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    You’re both the worst. Both of you make things awkward and uncomfortable for everyone else hanging out just trying to have a good time. Both of you bring down the vibes, and both of you need to leave. No, I don’t care whose “worse”. You both suck. Please leave.

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      Being mean often doesn’t bring down the vibe, especially if the vibe is exclusionary and chauvinistic. If the vibe is southern pride and racism, being mean to black people helps the vibe. Sometimes the vibe sucks, so bringing it down makes the world a better place. I don’t feel sorry for ruining fun had at the expense of others.

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      10 months ago

      Please explain to me how someone e.g. publicly professing their love of anime directly negatively impacts anyone

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        Cringe is relative. Almost any topic can negatively impact others in certain contexts, but presentation is also a key part of harmful cringe. It can offend people who have bad experiences with the topic, or it can derail the conversation and make it difficult for others to voice their opinion. If someone brings up their love for anime without it relating to the discussion, it shows that they aren’t considerate of other people.

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          That’s not “cringe” though. That’s just a lack of social awareness.

          Let’s be careful not to confuse the fact that autistic people have trouble knowing when it’s appropriate to inject something into a conversation with the content of what they inject. It’s all too easy for someone to conclude that anime itself is bad, or that everyone who likes it is bad, because the people who tend to like talking about it don’t know when it’s appropriate to do so. This conflation, I believe, is the driving force behind cringe culture. I’ve seen this happen far too many times to far too many subjects, including most if not all of my own special interests.

          Saying that autistic people lacking social awareness is bad is completely uncontroversial. Attempting to correct this by labelling it “cringe”, and, intentionally or not, them it’s their interests that are the problem, is not only wrong but harmful.

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        If your somewhere where being “cringe” or “mean” is socially-acceptable, then I guess sure you’ve managed to find the loophole. Congratulations.

        If you do something in a social situation that can be considered cringe, rude, mean, or offputting, then contextually speaking the action would be considered inappropriate to the social situation as a whole, or in today’s Layman’s Terms you’d be “awkward af”, and people would likely not want to “chill” with you. Depending on where this social situation is occuring they may ask you to leave, or force you to leave.

        But I don’t really want to debate social ethics and moral philosophy with you as it’s tedious and frankly annoying, especially in regards to something so minor. Sooooo yeah no fuck off.