• xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    It’s crazy that this isn’t even the first comment I’ve seen this week arguing that the Ukraine war is somehow a conspiracy by the West to sell more weapons, as if Russia didn’t just roll up and invade them, illegally and unprovoked

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      It’s not a conspiracy, it’s a colossal arms industry that will bankrupt the West and Russia the day wars around the world end.

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        5 months ago

        Do you recognize being invaded by a foreign country is a legitimate problem a country might have to face? If you do, and you oppose private military industry, that means you support public military industry, right?

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          Ofc there are situations that require military defense expenses. Once said that, using the military expenses to cross all the red lines drawn in the aftermath of WW2 is not to prevent a foreign invasion, but to instigate the chapter 3.

          Do you think Russia will patiently wait until every country bordering it is pointing missiles at it? Then you understand nothing about big-scale military conflicts.

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            By “crossing the red lines” do you mean ex-Eastern block countries joining NATO? Those countries joined out of their own free will BECAUSE they feared Russia might want to attack them. And, oh surprise, Russia did attack the one country not sucking up to them that didn’t join NATO. Why should Russia’s security be sacred above that of all its neighbours?

            If by red lines you don’t mean that, then they’ve clearly not been crossed. Russia and US or EU troops have not directly fought each other, and no country has used nuclear weapons so far.

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            “Patiently wait” is a funny way to spell “invade and systematically undermine.”

            No reason every country around them has missiles - right? No history of getting rolled, by them. Not like there’s an alliance specifically dedicated to stopping them from gobbling up nearby territory whenever they feel like it.