• captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    Ok but can we not depict a Jewish person as a lizard person. Lizard people are an antisemitic conspiracy

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        You’re wrong though. The Rothschilds are part of the conspiracy and they are jewish. It’s in the wiki you linked there.

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          “He contends that most of the world’s ancient and modern leaders are related to these reptilians, including the Merovingian dynasty, the Rothschilds, the Bush family and the British Royal family.[22]”

          How do you translate this to being a conspiracy about Jews specifically?

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            It’s not specifically about that, but I still see where they’re coming from. When you keep talking to conspiracy theorists they always bring up the Jews eventually. This means that a lot of conspiracy theories that don’t explicitly have anything specific to do with Jews (like 9/11 being faked, to name an example) to still be strongly tied to antisemitism.

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                My point is not that the Rotschilds were brought up here, but rather that basically every conspiracy theorist given enough time will end up saying that the Jews run the world. This is why every conspiracy theory, even if not explicitly about Jews, is still connected to antisemitism.

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          Wow, that is a cherry-picked example if I’ve ever seen one. The Rothschilds are mentioned exactly once on this page and it’s in this sentence:

          “He [David Icke] contends that most of the world’s ancient and modern leaders are related to these reptilians, including the Merovingian dynasty, the Rothschilds, the Bush family and the British Royal family.”

          Including the Rothschilds, as well as several other non-Jewish families. The Rothschilds are part of the conspiracy not because they’re Jewish, but because they’re influential.

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            Well when the bush and or royal family start fires in california with space lasers, we can come back to this.

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      I never made that connection. I thought it was just because he’s an emotionless alien?

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          He shouldn’t be immune to criticism. He’s weird and has done immense damage to society. I just am capable of saying that without defaulting to tropes associated with antisemitism.

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          Lol its kind of funny you’re surprised someone with the name Zuckerberg is Jewish.

          Criticisms are totally valid. But maybe avoiding racial ones is a good idea.

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            Yeah sorry the average person doesn’t care about last names. Especially in America where bringing up someone’s ethnicity/race is looked down on. Last names mean fuck all to the average person

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      While I’m with you on that, I am definitely getting more of a “sneaky snake” vibe from this comic, personally.

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        Fair, maybe I’m just being a bit over cautious here as I’ve noticed a huge rise in antisemitism over the past year or so and would rather err on the side of not risking coming off as such

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          I definitely don’t blame you for that. Dogwhistles come with that little bit of plausible deniability so it’s impossible to draw a hard line on this type of thing.

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          That’s fair and I’ve sadly noticed it too. I’ve recently learned what triple brackets mean.

          I still see lizard people as like a crazy molemen theory or bigfoot, not Jewish people. I think the response in this thread shows the majority of people, even those quite online, don’t see that connotation to it either and bringing attention to it could make it worse.

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      Oh fuck. I always thought Zuck=Lizard person stemmed from the complete lack of emotion in his face. And all the other billionaire stereotype shit. Didnt make the antisemitism connection until now.

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      It’s clear that he is portrayed as a snake (did you read his text bubble?)

      Jewish or not, he absolutely is a snake. I don’t think anyone but you made the connection: Zuckeberg -> Jewish -> lizard.

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      To be honest, I always kinda prefered Robo-Zucc.

      Him being a Lizard gives him too much credit.

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      While I do agree with that, I don’t think that’s relevant in this case. Most people don’t even know mark is Jewish. Hell I didn’t know that until last week or so. I believe the joke here is that Mark just behaves like an alien pretending to be human. Hence the lizard people conspiracy meme.