• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      people have harmless fantasies

      And we acknowledge this is true for men, but not for women.

      But the vast majority of men and women realize or will realize that they prefer

      Sounds like wishful thinking.

      [paraphrasing] Maybe you’re just imagining things?

      I’ve seen the stats.

      [paraphrasing] I do fine, so everyone can do fine.

      I do fine too, because I’m attractive. But that’s irrelevant. In general, what I’ve mentioned is quite common (and those are just examples). But we’re not allowed to acknowledge any of it.

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        11 months ago

        Alright, I’ll pretend that you’re coming at this from a place of good faith discussion.

        I guess I’m wondering, in what context do you want to talk about this? There are articles and studies that talk about the rape fantasy thing. There are online communities where you can have healthy discussions about this in an intellectual and academic way.

        I think the existence of 50 shades and other similar media is about as open as you can be about this stuff.

        So I ask again, what exactly is the context in which you want to talk about this? Do you, as a man, want to just tell women they have secret rape fantasies? That would be odd.

        Do you want to interrupt a discussion about the dangers of men actually raping women and tell them that they are statistically likely to have had harmless fantasies about it? What does that add to a discussion about misogyny and rape?

        I’m struggling to see the intersection of where the “dark side of femininity” should be discussed but isn’t.