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“If you don’t like a politician, vote against them” is the same tired idea?

Care for your own social life and you won’t be lonely. It is not only romantic/sexual relationships that fulfills that need.

Completely untrue for the majority of people. It’s only a small subsect of ace people who have no need for romantic relationships. The vast majority people need them in order to feel fulfilled.

And the problem is that, statistically, many men will be lonely.

I am also interested in what you are proposing in practicality to happen?

I’m not sure about a solution…aside from entitled, getting women to date men they’re not attracted to is simply practically impossible. As a band-aid though, and maybe a step towards a true solution, I think we as a society should be able to acknowledge that this is a societal problem and have some level of respect and support for the men it affects. Not just “get better and women will like you lol loser”. Not get immediately screamed at for being an incel just because you bring it up.

Did you know that the most lonely group are older women? Especially when it comes to relationships. Do you see them whine and demand men to go on dates with them?

All the time, actually. I am friends with a group of single women in their 50s and 60s and they do complain about this exact issue all the time. Except no men can meet their standards, which circles us back to the original point.

people have harmless fantasies

And we acknowledge this is true for men, but not for women.

But the vast majority of men and women realize or will realize that they prefer

Sounds like wishful thinking.

[paraphrasing] Maybe you’re just imagining things?

I’ve seen the stats.

[paraphrasing] I do fine, so everyone can do fine.

I do fine too, because I’m attractive. But that’s irrelevant. In general, what I’ve mentioned is quite common (and those are just examples). But we’re not allowed to acknowledge any of it.

Yeah, red pills are the only ones willing to openly talk about this shit. Which is a failure on the part of everyone else. It helps them get recruits.

Depends on if you believe me (yet)

Yes of course, but my point is that a) it’s incredibly common, and b) we’re not allowed to acknowledge that it’s true.

It’s not like, say, masturbation, which everyone acknowledges is a thing but isn’t polite to talk about. Everyone just straight up REFUSES TO BELIEVE certain things about women that data and anecodes both prove are common.

The only people who openly talk about these things are red pill misogynist bastards.

I just spent an hour (on and off during downtime at work) getting you links and then my finger brushed the “cancel” button when picking up my phone and it all vanished. It’s demoralizing as hell and I don’t have the energy. I’ll get back to you tonight.

I literally put down my phone and put my head in my hands. I was so pleased with my response. It’s terrible. I’m not ignoring you though.

What a freaky response.

FTFY

Why is it “fucked up” when women “flock” to attractive men?

It’s problematic for society. When one woman does it, well, it’s just one woman, who cares. But when the majority of women do it? It contributes to the whole male lonileness epidemic. It’s not fair, which again is easy to ignore on an individual level but when you scale it up to all of society, it promotes a pretty fucked up dynamic.

I guess you could say I think men should be entitled to a fair shot, not necessarily entitled to women. Or at the very least we could make a society that acknowledges the current dynamic and provides some level of emotional support for the less attractive men, instead of just pretending everything is fair and dandy and if your can’t get a girl you just gotta try harder.

Might be worth pursuing the life of a stoic if you’re disliking your current “flavor” of “cave”

I see someone just took philosophy 101 lol

It’s a heck of a stretch to relate Plato’s Cave to this conversation, it’s so obvious you just recently learned about it and it blew your mind and you’ve been DYING to bring it up

freak

Someone learned a new word today

Ur mom

Why do you people always start with that? I don’t understand. It’s the weirdest talking point. Why would you think “men are entitled to women” is a thing I’m suggesting?

I’ve heard that enough times that it’s clearly a common theme in sjw circles but I’ve never understood where it comes from.

You’re making all kinds of assumptions that aren’t even mentioned in the story.

It’s a known and quantified thing that happens independent of the story, and is likely the impetus for the (probably fake) story.

That’s what they say, but in practice it’s just a class filter. Punctuality and hoop jumping matters MUCH MORE in blue collar jobs than white collar.

It’s literally just saying “your family was wealthy enough that you weren’t forced to enter the labor market to support your relatives when you were a teenager”.

I wouldn’t call them “a dick” but women flocking to the most ridiculously attractive men and only to those men is kind of fucked up.

There’s this dark underbelly of femininity that people can only ever whisper about and it’s so annoying.

Like 2/3 of women having a rape kink. Two thirds. That’s insane. But it’s like the world’s best kept secret.

Women don’t care about dick size but they also rave about how big this one dick was when they’re drunk enough.

Women want a good, respectful, stable man but they go home with Ol’ Womanbeater Joe every time.

It’s so goddamn annoying and every time you bring it up, first you’ll get 100% of women saying “well maybe SOME women are like that but I WOULD NEVER” yeah sure. And then if you press the issue you get called an incel or red pill.

Women please just be fucking honest about what you want. Especially to yourself. Don’t pretend you love salad when you always end up ordering the cheeseburger.

Edit: see?

Confucius say, “man who run behind car get exhausted”

“man who run in front of car get tired”

Can mods ban other mods? Is there a hierarchy system like reddit where older mods can ban newer mods?