• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Why do you people always start with that? I don’t understand. It’s the weirdest talking point. Why would you think “men are entitled to women” is a thing I’m suggesting?

    I’ve heard that enough times that it’s clearly a common theme in sjw circles but I’ve never understood where it comes from.

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      1 year ago

      Why is it “fucked up” when women “flock” to attractive men?

      Other people have called the fact some women only want rich and/or attractive men a reason for them being bad human beings. Or called the behaviour a problem.

      I can’t see another reason for thinking this way unless you believe men are somehow entitled to women.

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        Why is it “fucked up” when women “flock” to attractive men?

        It’s problematic for society. When one woman does it, well, it’s just one woman, who cares. But when the majority of women do it? It contributes to the whole male lonileness epidemic. It’s not fair, which again is easy to ignore on an individual level but when you scale it up to all of society, it promotes a pretty fucked up dynamic.

        I guess you could say I think men should be entitled to a fair shot, not necessarily entitled to women. Or at the very least we could make a society that acknowledges the current dynamic and provides some level of emotional support for the less attractive men, instead of just pretending everything is fair and dandy and if your can’t get a girl you just gotta try harder.

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          Did you know that the most lonely group are older women? Especially when it comes to relationships. Do you see them whine and demand men to go on dates with them?

          Women aren’t responsible to be the whole social life of men. Care for your own social life and you won’t be lonely. It is not only romantic/sexual relationships that fulfills that need.

          I am also interested in what you are proposing in practicality to happen? Women should date men they aren’t attracted to because otherwise these men are lonely? It doesn’t get more entitled than that.

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            Care for your own social life and you won’t be lonely. It is not only romantic/sexual relationships that fulfills that need.

            Completely untrue for the majority of people. It’s only a small subsect of ace people who have no need for romantic relationships. The vast majority people need them in order to feel fulfilled.

            And the problem is that, statistically, many men will be lonely.

            I am also interested in what you are proposing in practicality to happen?

            I’m not sure about a solution…aside from entitled, getting women to date men they’re not attracted to is simply practically impossible. As a band-aid though, and maybe a step towards a true solution, I think we as a society should be able to acknowledge that this is a societal problem and have some level of respect and support for the men it affects. Not just “get better and women will like you lol loser”. Not get immediately screamed at for being an incel just because you bring it up.

            Did you know that the most lonely group are older women? Especially when it comes to relationships. Do you see them whine and demand men to go on dates with them?

            All the time, actually. I am friends with a group of single women in their 50s and 60s and they do complain about this exact issue all the time. Except no men can meet their standards, which circles us back to the original point.

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              1 year ago

              Your mindset is completely warped. Sorry, seek therapy. And stop reading manosphere stuff online.