• Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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    The ones justifying genocides and wars from dictators.

    You can be extreme left and still not be a tankie.

    • I assumed once one got extreme enough left they were anti-hierarchical and bound to principle

      It’s difficult to be that and tankie at the same time.

      I’m but a poli-sci amateur so I may be talking out my ass.

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        Leftism isn’t inherently anti-hierachy. Rather, different leftists take issue with different types of hierarchy. Marxists tend to hate class hierarchy, Marxist-Leninists tend to believe it to be a useful tool in developing to a stage where Socialism is possible, and Anarchists tend to think that all hierarchy is unjust, preferring mutualism.

        Then there are Left-Comms, who, depending on country, either love Marx and Lenin but reject Marxism-Leninism, or reject Lenin and purely love Marx. They tend to prefer Council Communism rather than Vanguardist Marxism-Leninism, as they believe councils are justifiable as they are democratically participated in but reject Vanguardism.

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      I might be too new, but I haven’t actually seen much of that at all. The farthest I’ve seen is adding context to events like collectivization in the USSR, which you can point out and still disagree with it, but prove that it’s misrepresented in American News sources.

      I’m not a Marxist-Leninist, but I think one of the most eye-opening things to learn is just how much propaganda is used by every country. Learning from other points of views, assuming historically accurate and verified, helps combat the notion that any states are good.

    • akari@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      you can be social democrat left, you can be anarchist left, hell you can even be communalist hivemind left!