• ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
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    What about things like rape or sexist crimes in general? What about crimes motivated by racism, ableism or a clashing of ideologies?

    The only thing anarchists have to say about these things are a vague “the communities will handle it themselves” which sounds an awful lot like police again to me.

    Just this time the police doesn’t have to follow laws at all and it’s basically my neighbours who will make up their own rules. This is a thought that runs shivers down my spine and not because of happiness.

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      If you claim that anything that resembles an answer to crimes is a “police”, then you’re talkino about something different than everyone else. The police as it exists today is there to fight class tensions and keep the current order of things.

      Do youeknow how many cases of rape cases currently lead to a conviction? Compare that to convictions of people stealing food or not being able to pay their rent.

      Crime will always exist. Currently, the way of preventing crime is by individualistic punishment, taking people away from the community they’re in and the fear of the aforementioned. That is not the only way to “fight” crime. Handling crime as an injury of the community and focusing on healing that wound as a community is IMHO a way more effective way that enablino bullies to get a power high.

      The police make up the law as they go all the time. Ever heard of “the blue wall of silence”? They cover for each other when someone steps out of line, because to them, group cohesion is more important than playing by the rules.

      You seem to not understand what bottom-up decision making is.

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        You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what police does. Neither does it make the laws, nor is it responsible for convicting rapists.

        Handling crime as an injury of the community and focusing on healing that wound as a community

        Like when people were burning witches? Or what’s happening right now in multiple countries which do not have police where all disputes are “solved” by clan-violence and vigilantes on the streets?

        Why do you believe, when your neighbours form their little vigilante groups, that they will help you when someone rapes you? What if the rapist is a friend of them or even someone from that group? What if they believe it’s okay to rape specific people or under specific circumstances?

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          Like when people were burning witches?

          Why did people burn witches? Maybe because someone in a position of power was in search of a scapegoat to blame because their position was threatened?

          where all disputes are “solved” by clan-violence and vigilantes on the streets

          Very non-hierarchical structures you’re describing here. /s

          Why do you believe, when your neighbours form their little vigilante groups, that they will help you when someone rapes you? What if the rapist is a friend of them or even someone from that group? What if they believe it’s okay to rape specific people or under specific circumstances?

          I’m not proposing "neighbors form[ing] little vigilante groups, so… Idk? 🤷

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            You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what police does. Neither does it make the laws, nor is it responsible for convicting rapists.

            Way to miss/derail my point, smartass.

            1. The whole justice system is based on individual punishment and taking people away from situations
            2. The “separation of powers” is a simple farce.