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“All” is obviously a step too far. I can give you that. I think it’s an overly literal way to interpret the spirit of the statement, as essentially nothing afflicts “All”, making the statement pretty much universally worthless. But it’s still a good faith argument on your end I think, so ok.
I think it will make most people more moronic. How many people it pushes over the line? Couldn’t say… but anecdotally a lot of people I interact with before have been pushed over the line already.
In my experience, there seems to be a correlation to how close to that line people are and how excited they are about LLMs. A few major exceptions. Possibly bimodal distribution? I dunno.
If it were refrained as “will x make a terrifyingly shit ton of people morons? So much so that societal organization will be measurably harmed?” Maybe it’d be easier.
“What should I do” and “what is 17+19” are fundamentally different questions.
What cognitive deficiency makes one a moron? This is the question.
If you believe there is nothing one could be deficient at that makes one a moron, then yes: no technology would make you a moron. You’re starting from a position where there is no prerequisite to not be a moron. It’s a tautology.
If there is a nugget… some bare minimum of performance required to not be a moron… then you must consider if a technology is driving people to that state.
I know morons.
I know they exist. I know what they lack.
I know why AI excites them. It provides a leveling mechanic that allows them to put up a facade of competence. I have no frame of reference to viscerally comprehend the excitement of being able to cosplay as a competent person. It must be the most exciting thing in the world.
For everyone else who alreadyhad two brain cells to rub together, it’s a Tuesday.
Synthesizing direction from inputs is intelligence. Deriving future inputs from observed data is a calculator. They couldn’t be more different. It’s obscene delusion to suggest they’re the same let alone similar
If you’ve offloaded your capacity to navigate, and are worse at navigating, then you’re objectively worse at navigating, that’s the reality.
What are you offloading to ai? Are you worse at it now? Is it critical thinking? Then yes.
There is already science that shows that people using llms makes them measurably worse, in an incredibly short amount of time, at tasks than they were before using llms.
So, “will x make us all morons? No” actually has some peer reviewed work that seems to imply "possibly NOT ‘no’ "
I felt it was pretty clear?
I had a hernia that the doctor planned to just jam back into me with his thumb. He was like “this is gonna Hella hurt”
“K”
“You wanna fentayl?”
“You’re the doctor”
So they put some in my IV and… Holy shit… I GET why people throw thier lives away for that feeling. Not saying they should or it’s a good idea… but I GET it.
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You Should Know@lemmy.world•YSK that the idea that drivers pay for roads is a myth, because funding sources also include property taxes, sales taxes and income taxes that people pay regardless of whether they drive or not
2·7 months agoIt’s amazing how you just gloss over than the “public infrastructure” is “roads”. I’ve seen people call people carbrains just for acknowledging roads ARE public infrastructure.
I maybe only see the stupidest and most vicious. You maybe only see the most intelligent and measured.
The truth is, you’re at a disadvantage here trying to convince me or anyone that rabid idiots don’t exist in the fuckcars community when others have seen and interacted personally with them.
I guess all I can really ask is that IF you see this behavior you call it out. Communities that don’t self regulate inevitably go insane and start generating slurs for people outside of thier culture which is a pretty good litmus test for toxicity.
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You Should Know@lemmy.world•YSK that the idea that drivers pay for roads is a myth, because funding sources also include property taxes, sales taxes and income taxes that people pay regardless of whether they drive or not
3·7 months agoYou don’t think this would merit a “carbrain”? I’ve seen it thrown at much less.
Bro Grimmace is just 1337
It isn’t saying “I recognize this text”, it is saying “this text is AI generated”.
And then it’s offering a service to rewrite it, with ai, so that it can’t be recognized as ai.
It’s doing SOMETHING, for sure. I just don’t think what it’s doing results in accurate results for what it claims to measure.
I had the opportunity to experience a masterclass in how to handle extreme weather events in Saskatchewan.
-Bundle the fuck up
-Check on / help your neighbours
-If you see someone stuck in thier vehicle help them for God’s sake.
In terms of unstucking a vehicle, the trick is to “rock it” out. Once you even get a little bit of motion, you’re in a better spot. If you are bring pushed, or are pushing, make sure the driver’s window is open for communication. When pushing, still be thinking about the task as rocking out. You push and they apply (a little) gas, till they hit the limit. Let them roll back after, then coordinate another push.
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You Should Know@lemmy.world•YSK that your gut is connected to your brain. Bacterias in your gut can naturally create serotonin and dopamine. If you have happy gut bacterias, you will feel happier
3·10 months agoI mean, there was that one guy where the mob cut off his entire body
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You Should Know@lemmy.world•YSK that your gut is connected to your brain. Bacterias in your gut can naturally create serotonin and dopamine. If you have happy gut bacterias, you will feel happier
2·10 months agoThat’s an interesting thought, I hadn’t ever considered that it might become this “wandering” point in space based on context. Maybe having a “fixed” conception at all is just a byproduct of mostly relying on eyes and ears which are pretty fixed. If you’re relying on touch, which is available over a much larger and flexible area, your brain maybe just abandons any notion of you existing at a fixed point in your own body.
We gotta find a deaf and blind person.
Windex007@lemmy.worldto
You Should Know@lemmy.world•YSK that your gut is connected to your brain. Bacterias in your gut can naturally create serotonin and dopamine. If you have happy gut bacterias, you will feel happier
6·10 months agoI haven’t had the chance to ask someone blind from birth (or blind at all), but I strongly suspect you’re right. I’d guess it’d be right between the ears.
In my bizarre life, I was basically blind in one eye for about a year when I was in my mid 20s. There was a perceptible and jarring difference in my perception of self, towards (but not directly to) my good eye. It didn’t happen right away, happened about a week in. This makes me wonder if even someone blind after birth would actually maintain the same sense of center vs someone blind at birth.
Blind and deaf at birth for me is the real head scratcher. Part of wonders if it would be somewhere on thier dominant hand, or maybe closer to thier center of mass?
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You Should Know@lemmy.world•YSK that your gut is connected to your brain. Bacterias in your gut can naturally create serotonin and dopamine. If you have happy gut bacterias, you will feel happier
14·10 months agoI could be wrong, but I don’t think awareness that the brain being “where memories are stored” is innate. I think that’s something we are told. If I’m recalling correctly, a surprising amount of what we perceive as cognition is offloaded to other distributed parts of our nervous system, so it’s maybe not even quite as true as we think it is.
And even if it were, through informal polling over the years, when pressed, almost everyone I’ve ever talked to conceptualizes the exact center of thier “self” to be around the bridge of thier nose. Nobody I’ve talked to described the pinpoint location as being the position of thier frontal lobe.
I’m the fucking furthest thing from an authority, though. If you had to pinpoint the exact “point” of your consciousness, where would you describe it to be? I’m curious how far offset it is from your center of vision.
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You Should Know@lemmy.world•YSK that your gut is connected to your brain. Bacterias in your gut can naturally create serotonin and dopamine. If you have happy gut bacterias, you will feel happier
153·10 months agoNot exactly related, but I think the typical conception of self being centered around the head at all is maybe just because that’s where our eyes and ears are. Curious how deaf and blind people conceptualize the physical location of thier consciousness
To me it sounds like you’re advocating for “tipping” public servants.



Damn, 10/10.
The obvious joke is funny enough. The second layer being the choice of Dracula and Frankenstein specifically, and pluralizing both is fucking top shelf.