Honestly that’s the minority on /r/conservative right now. Most are saying he fucked up and he’s fucking up by refusing the next debate. Many are even saying it’s over.
Honestly, this is the most heartening thing I’ve read about US politics in recent years. (PS. Am not American, and not in America)
I saw those replies. Reality has set in. But I think they’ll go back to drinking the koolaid unfortunately.
That whole sub works on cycles - news breaks, there’s an immediate negative reaction towards trump and a couple of days later the sub finds some way to spin the whole thing.
It’s fun watching them get told how to think in real time, though I’m not sure if it’s done big conspiracy with some russian telling them how to think or just a collective coping mechanism.
I know there are dumb cunts voting for him because they like him “owning the left”, but any time I see it when they’re so obviously wrong, I think it must be the Russians at it again.
I would love to know what substance they think he won on. Unless they mean the racism. They uh, they probably mean the racism, right?
Since Trump repeatedly came back to racism throughout the debate regardless of context, they’re definitely talking about the racism.
Well, yeah, we all vote based on feelings. Some feelings based on things that verifiably happened in the real world, and some feelings based on ridiculous bullshit we dreamed up.
Guess which side has more of the second kind of feelings.
I’ve never seen an original thought from a con. Every meme, every joke, every quote is just a reconfiguration of something they heard a more clever person say.
He didn’t necessarily win on substance, but he sure spoke like he took some beforehand.
Oh yeah feel that dopamine. This screenshot of text makes me feel superior as fuck. I was going to do something productive but it must wait because these real people interacting in this real situation need my time and judgement. Ive done a good thing here today.
the irony of this comment is crazy lol
This is true…
i mean everything here is just people dunking on other people dunking on other people in the most cringe way. maybe y’all get it and are just operating on a higher level, but i can’t tell. Poe’s law breaks my brain. but GP gets it, i can tell that.
The funny part is how this is literally true lmao
isn’t the left saying this is a vibes election and it doesn’t matter what her policy positions are? I could have sworn I heard that somewhere…
I heard some idiot say he has “concepts of a plan” but no actual plan the other night
For something he said would be ready in 2 weeks, like 4 years ago. It’s a grade school level excuse for not doing a homework project.
9 Years ago. 2015.
You must be wrong. 2015 is at most a few years ago…
concepts of a plan
That sounds like the name of a Yankee candle scent.
To clarify, Harris is being mindful of “the vibes” because it’s something her predecessors neglected. Doom and gloom does discourage turn out, on both sides, and it seems to be working. This isn’t zero sum with substance, and she has made clear some policy positions (and more at than Trump, unless you count Project 2025). You can do multiple approaches to appeal to multiple audiences.
Of course it is - the median voter seems to have all the brains of an ox - half of them still have Trump as their gender identity. People would like to think they’re better than that, but the outcomes beg to differ.
Trump’s only asset has been his vibes. He (and the GOP broadly) are an utter failure on anything of substance - their contempt for voters is clear in their policy. Problem is that his vibes are collapsing at an exponential rate.
Dems undeniably have the substance (only relatively speaking), but their contempt for voters fucks their vibes. The GOP is now so obviously unhinged they’ve seen an opportunity, and un-fucked their vibes.
Getting the job is mostly the vibes, doing the job is mostly the substance - and the current winner on both fronts is pretty fucking straightforward. It’ll still be a toss-up, sadly.
At least Harris has policy positions and a corresponding agenda. Trump has none of that, at least nothing that he could talk about in public. Did you not watch the debate? Did you not notice that he made no factual arguments whatsoever, but responded to every question on every topic with the same old empty polemics and unfounded recriminations?
Post where you heard it then, coward
Nice try troggie, but slightly imperfect policies are still better than the fucking return of Hitler.
A policy to continue supplying weapons to a genocide is not a slightly imperfect one, it is a genocidal one.
So that’s why Trump should win right? Because it’ll be better for Palestinians?
