• Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    A lot of men see only the women in their family as human, other women are just potential mates. This is why some people try to humanise women victims by pressing the fact that they are someone’s daughter/sister/mother. Why don’t we see the same language used on victimised men?

    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      Because society has told us that male victims are losers, and therefore disposable.

      To be clear, I don’t agree with that sentiment, but it is extremely thoroughly taught to our children.

    • WldFyre@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      Why don’t we see the same language used on victimised men?

      Are men victimized systemically and threatened physically to the same extent women are? Feminists speaking up for women’s issues doesn’t preclude men from speaking up for men’s issues, but lo and behold, men don’t have the same issues as a population that women do, and it’s not feminists’ job to speak up for them anyway.

      Edit: I misunderstood, see reply.

      • Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        17
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 month ago

        It’s because if a man is victimised then we don’t need to convince other men that they’re a person and didn’t deserve something bad happening to them. I’m not advocating for feminists to speak about men’s issues (they already do though). I’m saying that women are more often dehumanised which is why some people think they need to specify that a victimised woman is someone’s daughter/sister/mother/etc. The person I’m replying to is rejecting the assumption that dehumanisation of women takes place.

        • WldFyre@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          1 month ago

          I’m sorry, I took your ending question as a challenge towards the victimization of women, not as an attempt to get the other commenter to think about how men are treated differently.

          My bad, I 100% agree with you.