You would imagine this to be obvious, but people who are used to Photoshop or Reddit complain all the time that Gimp or Lemmy are not as intuitive, as the other comments fully demonstrate.
GIMP being free to just download from their site, and still being used far less (even by novices) than paid or pirated Photoshop really tells the whole story.
The average lemmy user compared to the general public is just far more used to trading away quality to stay with Free and Open-Source Software, to the point of sometimes apparently being blind to the mainstream option’s appeal.
Something being free to download doesn’t help if the paid software is so ingrained into culture, both popular and professional, that it practically has a monopoly. If you want to get work as an artist working with other people, you’ll want to learn the industry standard, not a niche program.
That’s all aside from whether gimp actually is or isn’t better, I just think the argument make no sense.
“intuitiveness is objective and measurable” is such a hilarious thing to say. Like yes it’s possible to measure how quickly people can come to understand an app but to say that, therefore, we have an objective understanding of ‘intuitiveness’ and can say “Hamburger menu instead of kebab menu here??? That is O B J E C T I V E L Y unintuitive” is sooo fucking silly.
Not really objective in real life. There is no abstract human in a vacuum, everyone has some previous knowledge and biases. If you ever had to train a grown up how to use a mouse and the ever illusive concept of double click, you know that even with some level of skeuomorphism there is a trouble at grasping new concepts, and if we go into more complicated territory, all bets are off. Maybe for a blank slate without any prior experience existing in society and operating tools, there are some high level abstract concepts, but for a real person, intuitiveness basically means “looks familiar to a something that I personally have seen before”
I am the same. I tried Photoshop and bazillion of tools didn’t help when making a simple picture, while GIMP could do that with relatively easier steps.
This seems true though, Gimp uses the same (fairly complex) tools for most thing Photoshop has an own tool for.
Have to commit I’m not that experienced with PS though
For some reason I do find GIMP easier to use them photoshop tho
“Software I’m used to is easier for me than software I have no experience with.”
What a fantastic insight.
You would imagine this to be obvious, but people who are used to Photoshop or Reddit complain all the time that Gimp or Lemmy are not as intuitive, as the other comments fully demonstrate.
GIMP being free to just download from their site, and still being used far less (even by novices) than paid or pirated Photoshop really tells the whole story.
The average lemmy user compared to the general public is just far more used to trading away quality to stay with Free and Open-Source Software, to the point of sometimes apparently being blind to the mainstream option’s appeal.
Krita is much better than GIMP if you want to stick to FOSS
Something being free to download doesn’t help if the paid software is so ingrained into culture, both popular and professional, that it practically has a monopoly. If you want to get work as an artist working with other people, you’ll want to learn the industry standard, not a niche program.
That’s all aside from whether gimp actually is or isn’t better, I just think the argument make no sense.
“Whatever I use is objectively better and y’all just blind and an average hivemind bot”
Intuitiveness is objective and measurable, and I’m very certain that Photoshop would demolish GIMP if a test was done.
“intuitiveness is objective and measurable” is such a hilarious thing to say. Like yes it’s possible to measure how quickly people can come to understand an app but to say that, therefore, we have an objective understanding of ‘intuitiveness’ and can say “Hamburger menu instead of kebab menu here??? That is O B J E C T I V E L Y unintuitive” is sooo fucking silly.
You know what’s actually silly? GIMP.
Not really objective in real life. There is no abstract human in a vacuum, everyone has some previous knowledge and biases. If you ever had to train a grown up how to use a mouse and the ever illusive concept of double click, you know that even with some level of skeuomorphism there is a trouble at grasping new concepts, and if we go into more complicated territory, all bets are off. Maybe for a blank slate without any prior experience existing in society and operating tools, there are some high level abstract concepts, but for a real person, intuitiveness basically means “looks familiar to a something that I personally have seen before”
Intuitiveness is as objective as color perception.
I am the same. I tried Photoshop and bazillion of tools didn’t help when making a simple picture, while GIMP could do that with relatively easier steps.
Edit: grammar, apologies.
This seems true though, Gimp uses the same (fairly complex) tools for most thing Photoshop has an own tool for. Have to commit I’m not that experienced with PS though