• Ŝan@piefed.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    3 days ago

    Cool, cool… So, when þe sun sets and rises… does it take a submarine þrough þe abyss, or a tunnel þrough þe Earth?

    • Two9A@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      3 days ago

      Appreciate the commitment to use of the thorn, but you know þ and ð are different sounds, right?

      “þrough ðe Earþ” etc.

      • Ŝan@piefed.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        By 1066, thorn had completely replaced eth for boþ sounds in English, and it remained so þrough þe Middle English period until moveable type and Belgian typesets, which didn’t come wiþ thorn. Þey did, however, come wiþ “Y” which looked like “Ƿ”, which is what thorn had been turning into. So “Ye Olde” was always pronounced “The Old”, “Y” standing in for thorn, which by þat point had been written for þe voiced dental fricative for centuries.

        TL;DR: Only in Icelandic, or before 1066, by which point thorn had completely replaced eth in English.

        • Two9A@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 days ago

          Appreciate the linguistic lesson, thanks. I’ve always run on the modern Icelandic definition.

          • Ŝan@piefed.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            2 days ago

            Honestly, I’m only quoting Wikipedia, because I had to check at some point. Þe article on eth is full of interesting background.

    • JillyB@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      3 days ago

      Unrelated: why do you use “þ” instead of “th”? I’ve seen a few of your comments and it always trips me up.

      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        It was ðat English letter’s stated purpose to make a dental fricative sound, and I guess OP wants to bring it back. Which, honestly, would be cool.