• jake@kbin.social
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    I worry about how this is going to get handled. There are going to be a lot of people looking to check out Lemmy, and this could be a true pivotal moment for the platform. Like it or not, Beehaw is one of the instances that lots of people have been hearing about, and so you’re going to play a part in that pivotal moment. Not allowing people to participate could drive them away. It’s a tough situation. I don’t envy you.

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      Like it or not, Beehaw is one of the instances that lots of people have been hearing about, and so you’re going to play a part in that pivotal moment. Not allowing people to participate could drive them away.

      popping in to say: while we’re sympathetic, this crudely speaking isn’t really an obligation we signed up for, nor one which really should be incumbent on us to solve (not least because of the OP statistic). for what it’s worth though in between keeping this place functional, we are trying to shoot things to the Lemmy devs and community as a whole to make the platform as good as it can, and to ensure instances can accommodate the many, many users we can’t and won’t take in.

      i’ll reiterate again that we have specific goals and we make it very clear—as clear as it can be, within the context of Lemmy’s limitations—what we’re looking for, why we’re looking for that, and that this simply isn’t a community for everyone. (we didn’t even ask to be passed around by the Lemmy devs as an instance you should try to sign up for in the absence of being able to use lemmy.ml, lol). that’s for federation reasons but also practical ones, and as much as i understand many people want a new place to go for a lot of people that place isn’t necessarily going to be here.

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        I don’t know if your rejections currently do, but perhaps they could point to other instances. As gently as possible explaining beehaw is at max moderation capacity and suggesting the other instances.

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          Unfortunately rejections do not notify the end user of any reason. There’s supposed to be a toast message when they try to log in, but that’s not working. We’ve logged a bug on GitHub for Lemmy devs but we don’t have an ETA for a fix

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        Fair enough, but beehaws the only instance I know of that defeds with lemmygrad. If I wanted to recommend a lemmy instance to a friend and didn’t want them put off by the awfulness of that community I wouldn’t know where else to point them to.

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      They will always be welcome to participate in our communities via federation, but we may not have the bandwidth to accommodate everyone in a way which does not compromise our ethos. If you haven’t had a second to check out the philosophy posts in the sidebar, it will give you an idea of where we intend to take this place. This is an explicitly nice and safe space, and we are perfectly fine with driving traffic that isn’t explicitly nice elsewhere.

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        Sorry if this was answered elsewhere, but does that mean Beehaw automatically federates with new instances and only the explicit Blocklist can’t? I was toying with the idea of maintaining my own single user instance for stability but don’t want to run the risk of being excluded if it goes private in the future.

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          Sorry if this was answered elsewhere, but does that mean Beehaw automatically federates with new instances and only the explicit Blocklist can’t?

          i believe we automatically federate, yeah. federation here seems to explicitly work in a way where if you just leave the “Allowed Instances” section blank (as we do), you federate with all instances except the ones you have explicitly blacklisted.

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          Oh, that’s an idea I hadn’t thought of. I have a private server at home. I could set up an instance for myself as long as I can continue to interact with others.