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  • Hamartia@lemmy.worldto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneRonald McRulegan
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    17 days ago

    That’s a perspective issue though.

    If you’re not a white middle-class American and have had a much tougher experience over this time period and say that was largely down to the parasitic hubris of many white middle-class Americans. Then you might be entitled to a much dimmer view at an attempt at brevity that ignores your viscerally darker cultural history.

    The way that most propaganda works is by repeating it’s message whenever/whereever it can and silencing alternative messages. At a certain stage the message is self sustaining (becomes cultural) and the duped populace will police it themselves.

    Yes the meme is a wry look at a truism that will resonate with plenty of us on here, and that is fine. But it is also OK for other people to stand up and give their cultural perspective. Otherwise it just comes off as you’re just replicating that toxic behaviour of policing your cultural propaganda.












  • I don’t call for an end to America over its hundreds of years of killings, murder, rape, slavery, genocide, ecocide, innumerable hypocrisies, and corrupting hegemony. I don’t come on here and sweatily proclaim that all I hope for is the fall of the American ascendency. I don’t because I recognise that America like Catholics or Muslims is a vast mix of people with a wide range of lived experiences and view points. And that not all of their history is terrible. Some of it is actually commendable. And the actions of the leaders often do not line up with the majority of their people.

    Yes, true, Catholic church is outdated and reactionary with way more than it’s fair share bad actors but there are also hundreds of millions of Catholics, and people with Catholic backgrounds but no longer practicing, out there that are a wide mix of human beings that deserve a basic amount of respect.

    You can, for clarity, include within the parameters of basic respect, to not have to endure your overgeneralising hostile invective.



  • It’s perfectly legitimate to have issues with any organised religion but damning everyone brought up in their traditions is myopic.

    I was brought up a catholic in Northern Ireland during the troubles. Similar prejudice was routinely trotted out to justify treating us as second class citizens. So surprise, surprise even now as an atheist, I find it a bit triggering, as anyone mght imagine, to hear someone singling out my persecuted community in such a toxic mischaracterisation. I didn’t ask to be catholic but I was brought up in a community of caring and open minded people. Sure there were arseholes but guess what every community has them.