At 7:40 a.m. Wednesday, federal judges in the Western District of Washington swore in former King County Superior Court judge and federal prosecutor Roger Rogoff as their pick for U.S. attorney.

Fifty-four minutes later, President Donald Trump fired him.

Rogoff, who recently resigned as director of the state office of independent investigations, formed to investigate police killings, is now the rope in a tug-of-war with the Trump administration. The district’s 17 sitting federal judges began looking for a replacement for Neil Floyd in January after the president failed to formally nominate him, instead appointing Floyd as interim and later as a “first assistant” U.S. attorney in order to sidestep the nomination process.

Rogoff said he was waiting in the lobby of the U.S. District Courthouse downtown to meet with Floyd, and presumably take Floyd’s office, when he got an email saying he’d been fired.

“We are working on legal action right now,” Rogoff said. “The rule of law requires that prosecutorial decisions remain free from political interference, and that lawful judicial appointments be respected. I remain grateful for the confidence placed in me and proud of the career professionals who continue to serve the people of Western Washington.”

Rogoff’s firing sets up a legal battle over a federal statute that gives a district’s federal judges authority to appoint a U.S. attorney if there is no formal nomination or Senate hearing.

    • ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
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      Americans have spent decades explaining that the obscene amount of firearm deaths in the US was the price to pay for their precious 2nd amendment that guarantees them the possibility to rise up against tyrants and abusive governments, should it ever happen.

      Well, it’s happened. And sure enough, they ain’t doing nothing with it because it was all a bunch of baloney. America is all talk and no walk.

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        It’s tempting to think that Americans have done this, but it’s really just the 10-20% of our loudest, dumbest, and most gullible

        source: stuck here with them

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          Literally yelling at a community of people who live in one of the most left-leaning states in the union lol

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          it’s really just the 10-20% of our loudest, dumbest, and most gullible

          The other 80% aren’t doing much to stop them then, which makes them just as guilty.

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              He wants us to secede because that would be “safe and bullet-free”.

              Delusional.

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              Yeah: secession.

              If a state figures it’s in an abusive relationship with the federal government, it should leave the union.

              As for me, I’m only talking the talk: I’ve expatriated 25 years ago. I don’t live in that godforsaken country no more, thank goodness.

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                Two things.

                Since you lived in the US, you should know how difficult that is in practice. I would be on board with it (there’s a reason my pfp is the Doug flag), however, Washington is also home to the US’ biggest nuclear arsenal, and the feds would not just roll over and take WA leaving. WA has no standing military unless you count the national guard, but I don’t really count that. A militia, while one could definitely be formed, would not fare well against drones at 50,000 ft. People tend to not appreciate getting vaporised and many would roll over just from the sight. My point is, it’s not as simple as just seceding.

                Secondly, I’m glad you were fortunate enough to escape. Unfortunately, the vast majority does not have that privilege and are stuck here. I’m not sure why you’re saying that those of us trapped here are just as guilty, when you should know how difficult it is for the lower class to escape. Maybe you should acknowledge how privileged you are to be able to escape instead of shitting on those of us trapped here?

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                So just to be clear, you left and are holding everyone who remains accountable? So you did nothing for anyone but yourself, but you expect others to do more than you and judge them for failing to do so? Please shut the fuck up then.

                Words are wind. Your ideas are flaccid and unrealistic, and you don’t have skin in the game to execute on them anyway. I’m not saying that I wish this wasn’t happening here (though I don’t wish it on anyone else either), and that I am not tempted to leave with my family, myself. But I sure as shit wouldn’t have the gall to walk out of a building with smoke coming out of it, then stand and watch from across the street until it is engulfed in flames, and then say “Man, those people in that burning building should really do something about it. Pretty irresponsible of them to let it get this far out of control.” I definitely wouldn’t suggest some dumb shit like “You should separate your part of the building from the burning parts before it catches them on fire too!”

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                  So just to be clear, you left and are holding everyone who remains accountable?

                  Yep. 100%

                  So you did nothing for anyone but yourself

                  Correct. I owed this country nothing so I left it when it started to turn into a putrid proto-fascist mess in 2002. My primary duty is to my family, not to a failed experiment in social exploitation and racism that pretends to be a democracy.

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        What are you even doing in this community then?

        I’m going to say the same thing I’ve said before to these kinds of takes - it’s really fucking easy to send other people to their deaths behind your screen, isn’t it?

        It is not viable for us to storm into Seattle and what? Hold guns to people’s heads until this guy gets his job back? What are you doing here?

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            Rising up with guns like you want simply isn’t going to work against the US army. All you’re calling for is unnecessary death.

            Do you even see the post you’re commenting on?

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              Kk keep letting them kill you in the streets and murdering more civilians overseas. History will see you as collaborators or cowards.

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                Great. What specific actions are you demanding people undertake because you said so? “Just fight back” is real fucking easy to tell other people to do, but you have no fucking idea what that would even entail in this case. Thanks for your stellar contribution here.

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                  They want us to die. That’s it.

                  I can understand people’s general hatred of the US based on our government’s actions and such, but jesus christ, there’s gotta be more productive ways of expressing it than yelling at randos in a city community on Lemmy.

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          it’s really fucking easy to send other people to their deaths behind your screen, isn’t it?

          I’m not sending anyone to their death, I’m stating a fact: Americans claim they have guns to protect democracy and they’re letting Temu Hitler and his henchmen wreck their democracy. That’s all I’m saying.

          There is a safe and bullet-free way out of this you know: secession.

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            Those guns aren’t going to do shit against the US army, but ok.

            Keep playing in your fantasy land where you can send as many Americans to their deaths as you want.

            There is a safe and bullet-free way out of this you know: secession.

            Now I know you’re delusional. Secession would not be safe or bullet-free.

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              Youre willfully missing the person’s main point. That Americans cried about freedom and liberty, backed up with arms that they can use to fight off the gov, but when the time came, people would rather just keep their heads down and work. Which is understandable, but does put a lie to the idea your guns are to protect you from the gov.

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            The country has like 400 million people in it.

            The ones who harp on about guns, and the ones who want trump gone do not have a whole lot of overlap.

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              Not to mention that Washington State holds about a third of the US’s nuclear arsenal.

              There isn’t going to be a peaceful way to secede here.

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        The idiots that believe and/or spout that shit are the same ones who are in support of this fascism. It was, at best, bullshit from the beginning. A) the 2nd amendment is not and never was meant to be an allowance for insurrection. If you think insurrection was ever constitutionally protected, as in the framers were carving out a legal pathway to destroy what they built, you’re deluded. And, particularly, if you think that that would hold true under the tyrannical government that would be in control in this hypothetical… you’re a moron. B) Also you have pistols, rifles, and shotguns. They have those things as well as tanks, jets, drones, missles, and nukes. The idea of your uprising is a fantasy.

        At worst, it was an excuse to keep your toys and your paranoid delusions of standing your ground if a brown guy ever tried to enter your home and minimize the tens of thousands of gun deaths each year as unimportant in comparison.

        And even if an uprising were to happen today, the unfortunate truth is that it wouldn’t be the whole of America against its government. It would have, at most, half of its people’s support, a subset of that half actually ready, willing, and able to take up arms, and they wouldn’t just be beseiging government buildings in DC. They would be fighting an army of MAGA and their allies and most of the military. And those in power would be in secret bunkers all over the globe well out of harms way.

        Modern day insurrection in a technologically advanced and politically divided country would not be the American Revolution 2.0. Politics has changed. Warfare has changed. There will be a successful revolution again in a western country at some point in the future. It is an inevitability. But I don’t think anyone even knows what such a thing would look like right now. My thought is that it would have to either be an extremely fast, secret, targeted, and totally destructive action over a matter of days to prevent time to mobilize against it, a joint war effort with the backing of another state power that can stand toe to toe with the regime, or the regime would have to be so repugnant in enough ways that it has nearly no popular domestic support and its own military would side against it. Given the amount of surveillance in aspects of modern life, the relative military power levels between the US and nearly all other nations and lack of willingness to start another world war, and the complete brainwashing and reality warping of a large portion of the population and the military to continue supporting the Trump Administration no matter what they do… I don’t see such things happening successfully anytime soon. Call me a cynic.

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        cant afford to lose ammosexual voting conservative, and putting people in for profit prisons. which goes back funding LEOs and the politicians with our tax money.

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    Is Trump doing this because of that recent Supreme Court ruling? The one where they said he can fire whoever he wants from committees and such?

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      He’s doing this because letting the judges choose the attorney like they are legally allowed to do deprives Trump of an appointment he can sell for money or favors. He’s going to get away with this because of the recent Supreme Court ruling that says he can fire anyone in the Executive Branch (except for the Fed because reasons).

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    Is there no instant recursion solution that can allow him to be immediately rehired in the same position at the point at which he was fired in this type of circumstance?

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    Stop reporting this shit as if it actually happened. Trump did not fire him: Trump tried to fire him, but if he doesn’t have the authority then he isn’t actually fired.

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    It doesn’t matter how …one day he won’t be president and all this shit is going to make a big big splat on someone’s face. That’s all I’m saying.

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      Yeah exactly, just like last time he wasn’t president after the Jan 6 stuff and the epstein files and keeping confidential documents at mar-a-lago. Better get ready for some big egg

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        Only 3000 people in the US live for 100 years. 90 years would be around 3 million. 80 years old would be around 15 million…so from now till 10 years from now he’s got a pretty good chance of meeting his lord Jesus (not the Mexican Jesus, the American one)