• BROOT@lemm.ee
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    You have to be kidding, right? A paper tiger? US javelins alone were responsible for utterly crippling the Russian air superiority.

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      It seems we have transdimensional traveller here. Seems from very far dimension because in this one Javelin isn’t even anti air missile lmao.

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        It’s really shocking how propagandised the masses are. I’ve never seen anything quite like this and I’m old.

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        My bad, I misspoke. Us javelins are anti-tank. UK javelins were anti air.

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            In my quickness to reply, I mixed up Patriot system with javelin. I didn’t mean that the UK were sending anti air, just that the UK once HAD a SMAA that was called a Javelin. Entirely my fault.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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              The US patriot blew its load of 36 missiles in two minutes and then got hit by a single hypersonic missile and destroyed. US is only able to produce around 150 of these missiles per year at the moment, and each one costs $4.1 million. Anybody capable of doing basic math can see that Patriot is an utter joke of an air defence system.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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                  Funnelling tax payer money away from things like social services, infrastructure, healthcare, and education which it’s meant for and into the pockets of the oligarchs who own the military industry is the whole point.

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                    No no you don’t get it. It’s about free market. Any one can become oligarch in US. It’s a free democratic country. It’s upto to the people to compete and become an oligarch. No one is stopping them from becoming oligarchs. It’s free market after all. If some oligarch can profit from war then other people also have that option to become that oligarch. After all every thing is about profit in amerikan dream.

                    — That is what, being a liberal, I used to think about war profit and bourgeois nationalism.

                    ** For the people to get an Idea of how a Liberal Brain works after consuming so much bourgeois media.

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              The Patriot system could not even reliably shoot down the modfied SCUD rockets Iraq fired during the first gulf war…

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          They also suck as anti-tank weapon. A tank has a “slightly” larger range and reactive armor to counter those kinds of missle. The russian military did not sleep the last decades.

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      The Russian air superiorty that still exists and is causing the US to greenlight German trainers to train Ukrainian pilots on US fighters so that maybe in a few months there might be some counter to it? That Russian air superiorty?

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      All of the mighty US Wanderwuffe were destroyed or didn’t cause much in terms of advancing, and as all of you liberals like to say, Russia was using shitty goatherder Soviet weapons. Furthermore if you actually read the article you would see that the US is highly deindustrialised and cannot sustain a prolonged war and that’s not going to change because those are the effects of neoliberalism.

      In describing the outcome of the Congressional wargames, Rep. Mike Gallagher said that the U.S. used up almost all of its precision-guided missiles in a week. I assure you, China would not run out of missiles in a week.

      Guess what happens after a week? Besides if the US would invade China there would be no reason for Russia, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and plenty of other countries to provide support, I’d like to see how much your wunderwaffe will do there.

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        Sorry, forgot I was replying to a totally badass amazing military strategist big brain boi. I’ll take my librul tearz and go home :(

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          Will you address the claim made in the article which you clearly only read the headline of:

          In describing the outcome of the Congressional wargames, Rep. Mike Gallagher said that the U.S. used up almost all of its precision-guided missiles in a week. I assure you, China would not run out of missiles in a week.

          You seem to just assume that the US can somehow magically appear missiles into existance, but I mean think about it, is it the US or China that deindustrialized? Also, why does the US wargame conclude that at least two US aircraft carriers would be downed in the first two weeks?

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            Where did I say that? There’s a whole lot of conjecture in your statement. Nothing in the article gives the vastly different rules of each of the war game scenarios they ran. Also, congressional war games are often utter and complete bullshit, run by people that have no idea how the American military and its supply chain and contractors operate. All I ever said was that I think this shit would be worse for China than for us.

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              How does the US losing two aircraft carriers and running out of missiles way before China equate to China being worse off than the US?

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                You understand that what I said implies that I don’t take at face value the validity of a CONGRESSIONAL war game run, right?

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          I tried to change my display name to “a totally badass amazing military strategist big brain boi” for the meme reply but I guess that was too long…

          In seriousness though, do you really think we’re responding to you for your “librul tearz”?

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            That would have been an amazing name. And in serious? The person I responded to used ‘you liberals’ and ‘neoliberalism’ towards me, I was just mocking them.

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      If the US is doing so well at arming Ukraine and defeating Russia, then why are they losing? Why is Russia still taking land and why is this “counteroffensive” that the US and Ukraine talked so much about utterly failing?

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      Well, no. Ukrainian forces themselves stated that they need real anti-air capabilities because those javelins are useless. Please stop getting your news from NAFO bots.