https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/140vbey/launching_rlemmymigration_what_communities_have/jmxnzsh/?context=1

Look at here and the people who complain about it being too hard to figure out are the ones complaining about “I can’t use muh slurs, this is awful.”

“The left of today is very much in favour of censorship to avoid “harm.” This makes those of us in the middle very wary of signing up to any partisan media.” /u/decidedlysticky23

/u/misshapensteed claims he isn’t far right, but explictly only posts on PoliticalCompassMemes and TheLeftCantMeme and KotakuInAction.

If they are too stupid to figure out we know they’re lying, they’re too stupid to figure out lemmy.

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    Not speaking for anyone but me, but sometimes when people say they something is too political it really means too much “extreme” political views. Personally I don’t want to interact with extreme auth-left or auth-right content. I think politely discussing why access to housing should be guaranteed by government, or arguing for lower corporate taxes or whatever, isn’t what bothers most people.

    Fortunately Fedi allows instances who are fine with it host those users, and I don’t have to see it. And Lemmy -the project- isn’t political, it’s just software for which I’m grateful to the devs.

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      I was almost gonna agree until the end but unfortunately, I really can’t agree with the notion that technology is not political.

      The project is political. The license they chose for the software, what they’re using to develop it, how they fund the development of the project are all very political things.

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        I don’t completely disagree, but that’s not what I meant. People are conflating the views of Lemmy’s main developers with the project itself, and I believe they can be separated.

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      Yes exactly, I call myself very left but the minute I tried /kbin a thread about china from lemmy.ml showed up and there full of Tianomon Square deniers I tried to engage but just after half an hour I was almost done with the whole reddit alternative and was on my way to delete my account.

      People are put off of extremist places and don’t want to join them, think they are lost already to the extremists. Both online and in real life.

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        This is difficult to hear but may be good feedback to share with kbin.social’s admins and kbin’s devs in the kbinMeta magazine. I don’t want to see lemmy.ml defederated at this point, but it’s a risky one to have on the front page. It’s kind of nuanced:

        Lemmy’s devs have been running a successful campaign to recruit Redditors to use their app, and many Redditors have chosen lemmy.ml (the instance run by its developers) by default. A few of us have been trying to sound a warning about this, but it’s muted amid the outrage at Reddit.

        Lemmy’s developers are often described as “tankies” but the word seems to be acting as a euphemism, as though it’s just an eccentric subculture. The fact is Lemmy’s devs are stooges for the CCP. They actively welcome its propaganda on their instance, and they’ve compiled apologetics for the CCP’s human rights abuses including the Uyghur genocide.

        At the same time, lemmy.ml is the primary instance for Lemmy, and an important support resource for instances that run on it. On top of that it’s now home to a lot of Redditors trying to build their own communities there. For those reasons I don’t think it should be defederated, but I think kbin.social might need a way to prevent the instance – or at least some specific communities – from reaching the front page.

        For myself, I’ve blocked its china and technology communities, as well as a few specific users that I’ve seen post propaganda pieces there. I’m satisfied with that solution to address my own use, but your own experience makes me realize it still reflects on kbin.social to have that stuff reach our front page.

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          Yep, I’m working on solving this problem. I want everything to be clear in the end. However, in the meantime, I need your help to use the reporting option in such situations.

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            Makes sense. I’ve unblocked some things so I can help with reporting.

            It’s looking a lot better right now, so I think ex-redditor posts are overwhelming and diluting a lot of the problematic content. There were even some things I thought I’d blocked but hadn’t – they just haven’t reached the front page since I created my account a few days ago.

            It’s good to know there’s another solution on your radar, though. Thanks!

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            • To block users: when you go to someone’s profile there’s a 🚫 button to block them. It’s next to the “Follow” button, below their name.
            • To block magazines/communities: the 🚫 (block) button is next to the Subscribe button in the sidebar. On mobile the sidebar gets moved to the bottom of the page, so you have to scroll down a ways to see it.