fyi: it’s “drugs”

  • Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    So why does the same not apply to sex?

    Why is it if two people are both drunk and have sex, that only one is at fault?

    If a woman is drunk and goes to a drunk guy at a party and tells him she wants to have sex, why does that make him a rapist?

    • velma@sh.itjust.works
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      If a woman is drunk and goes to a drunk guy at a party and tells him she wants to have sex, why does that make him a rapist?

      It doesn’t.

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        That’s exactly what everyone says. And legally that is the case in a lot of places.

        That’s how a lot of these cases are. Even the Cornell one started off as her voluntarily having sex with 3 of them, which she then claimed were also rape.

        Hell I’ve personally been in that situation. At a buddy’s party drunk. Someone wife brought a friend and she was all over me, getting me to drink more. Telling other people she was gonna get me in bed. Then the next day tried to tell her friend that she was too drunk to consent and that I raped her. If I didn’t have literally 20 eyewitnesses to her being the instigator and her texting her friend during the party that she was going to seduce me, then I would have been charged with rape. Despite being the one that under the same logic would have actually been the one that was raped.

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          5 hours ago

          Yeah she was raped by those men. It wasn’t only because she was under the influence either.

          Agreeing to sex with two men doesn’t mean she consented to a gang rape.

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            5 hours ago

            Didn’t say she wasn’t. The four that came in later were absolutely rapists.

            But she willingly and voluntarily consented to sex with three men, then later claimed they raped her.

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                These are established facts. They are her own claims in her lawsuit. She consented to the first three but now feels like she wasn’t able to consent because she was intoxicated.