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  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    16 hours ago

    It has nothing to do with euphoria. From the source:

    In 2021, a research team led by Debby Herbenick, provost professor at the Indiana University School of Public Health, interviewed 24 women aged 18 to 33 in depth about their experiences of strangulation during sex. Although, for most, their first experience had involved no prior discussion – including one who was having sex for the first time – the majority now viewed it as “routine and regular”. All believed it was safe, despite experiencing many physical reactions, including coughing, gasping, difficulty swallowing and breathing and vision changes. Some said they accepted being choked for their partner’s pleasure, even though they didn’t personally find it arousing. Others did enjoy it and sought it out as “adventurous” and “exciting”.

    The paper notes that historically, autoerotic asphyxiation is rare among women and adds, “It is curious how sexual asphyxiation, which has long been described as predominantly engaged in by/for men’s arousal, has become so frequently enacted by men on women partners.”

    Bows makes the same point. “What’s not being talked about is that this is happening overwhelmingly to women by men. If you accept what people will argue – that this is an activity that’s enjoyed because it’s ‘sensual’ – then why aren’t men the recipients more often? To me, it’s just another way we’ve culturally legitimised men harming women.”


    It just keeps going like that. It’s really wroth reading.

    • protist@retrofed.com
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      16 hours ago

      “then why aren’t men the recipients more often?”

      I’d be interested to know the source on this, because I know plenty men who are into this. Even in the paragraph prior it states, “sexual asphyxiation, which has long been described as predominantly engaged in by/for men’s arousal.”

      That said, full consent and knowledge about the potential long-term physical harm are absolutely critical

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        13 hours ago

        It says “The paper notes that historically, autoerotic asphyxiation is rare among women”. So it seams to suggest that before choking your partner became common it was mostly men to chocked themselves while masturbating. Now it’s mostly men that choke women. It doesn’t say it doesn’t happen to men, just that women were not into it before and now it happens to them more.

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          10 hours ago

          It’s a very poorly written paper that is using generalizations without a proper source or study group.

          A sample size of 24 to make these broad assumptions is frankly ridiculous

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          14 hours ago

          This is such a crazy extrapolation to me, especially as someone who has had a girlfriend die from (EXTREMELY STUPIDLY) doing unsupervised breath play on herself.

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              8 hours ago

              The study didn’t test that men did it more or not. They just asserted it without data to back it up

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                6 hours ago

                I’m not sure which study you’re talking about but I guess the article states it as a fact because it’s a well known… fact. What I found in 5 minutes:

                Study from Australia: less 10% of autoerotic neck compression deaths were women.

                Study from Italy: 10% of deaths were women

                Study from US: men consistently exhibited higher mortality rates than women

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                  6 hours ago

                  That only proves that men are more likely to die that way. Which does infer that men are more likely to do it, but it certainly isn’t definitive.

                  It’s not even a hard thing to demonstrate. Just needs a statistically significant sample size and a questionnaire. It would be pretty wild if it correlated to where women were just better at not accidentally killing themselves.

                  Also the study did not do a good job at demonstrating that auto-erotic affixiation and affixiation on a partner correlated. That was another assumption made. I’m talking about the study you’ve been talking about in this thread

      • velma@sh.itjust.works
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        16 hours ago

        In 2021, a research team led by Debby Herbenick, provost professor at the Indiana University School of Public Health, interviewed 24 women aged 18 to 33 in depth about their experiences of strangulation during sex. Although, for most, their first experience had involved no prior discussion – including one who was having sex for the first time – the majority now viewed it as “routine and regular”. All believed it was safe, despite experiencing many physical reactions, including coughing, gasping, difficulty swallowing and breathing and vision changes. Some said they accepted being choked for their partner’s pleasure, even though they didn’t personally find it arousing. Others did enjoy it and sought it out as “adventurous” and “exciting”.

        The paper notes that historically, autoerotic asphyxiation is rare among women and adds, “It is curious how sexual asphyxiation, which has long been described as predominantly engaged in by/for men’s arousal, has become so frequently enacted by men on women partners.”

        Bows makes the same point. “What’s not being talked about is that this is happening overwhelmingly to women by men. If you accept what people will argue – that this is an activity that’s enjoyed because it’s ‘sensual’ – then why aren’t men the recipients more often? To me, it’s just another way we’ve culturally legitimised men harming women.”

        Here is the Guardian article that ExLisper already linked.

        Here is the paper that the Guardian references.

        • basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          16 hours ago

          I get what your saying, but I think a lot of women do enjoy it for MANY different reasons, most unhealthy. I am one who enjoys it, so there is that-

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            16 hours ago

            No one is saying that there’s no women that enjoy choking. I still wouldn’t say it’s a lot of women.

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          15 hours ago

          I don’t understand why you’re quoting the same thing to me that I responded to?

          • velma@sh.itjust.works
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            15 hours ago

            I put the links under the quote to both the article and the original paper.

            You asked for the sources.