• BROOT@lemm.ee
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    I mean I don’t jive with the “USA #1” shit, but let’s be realistic. China has a military with both hardware and personnel structure built around Russian platforms and systems. About 35% of their current standing military is 2 year conscripts. We’re currently watching our hardware from 2-3 generations ago annihilate Russia in Ukraine. I think it’s safe to say that invading Taiwan would be WAY worse for China than for us.

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      Ukraine is being devastated, and the US weapons have proven again and again to be nothing but a paper tiger.

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        You have to be kidding, right? A paper tiger? US javelins alone were responsible for utterly crippling the Russian air superiority.

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          It seems we have transdimensional traveller here. Seems from very far dimension because in this one Javelin isn’t even anti air missile lmao.

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          The Russian air superiorty that still exists and is causing the US to greenlight German trainers to train Ukrainian pilots on US fighters so that maybe in a few months there might be some counter to it? That Russian air superiorty?

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          All of the mighty US Wanderwuffe were destroyed or didn’t cause much in terms of advancing, and as all of you liberals like to say, Russia was using shitty goatherder Soviet weapons. Furthermore if you actually read the article you would see that the US is highly deindustrialised and cannot sustain a prolonged war and that’s not going to change because those are the effects of neoliberalism.

          In describing the outcome of the Congressional wargames, Rep. Mike Gallagher said that the U.S. used up almost all of its precision-guided missiles in a week. I assure you, China would not run out of missiles in a week.

          Guess what happens after a week? Besides if the US would invade China there would be no reason for Russia, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and plenty of other countries to provide support, I’d like to see how much your wunderwaffe will do there.

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            Sorry, forgot I was replying to a totally badass amazing military strategist big brain boi. I’ll take my librul tearz and go home :(

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              Will you address the claim made in the article which you clearly only read the headline of:

              In describing the outcome of the Congressional wargames, Rep. Mike Gallagher said that the U.S. used up almost all of its precision-guided missiles in a week. I assure you, China would not run out of missiles in a week.

              You seem to just assume that the US can somehow magically appear missiles into existance, but I mean think about it, is it the US or China that deindustrialized? Also, why does the US wargame conclude that at least two US aircraft carriers would be downed in the first two weeks?

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                Where did I say that? There’s a whole lot of conjecture in your statement. Nothing in the article gives the vastly different rules of each of the war game scenarios they ran. Also, congressional war games are often utter and complete bullshit, run by people that have no idea how the American military and its supply chain and contractors operate. All I ever said was that I think this shit would be worse for China than for us.

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                  How does the US losing two aircraft carriers and running out of missiles way before China equate to China being worse off than the US?

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                    You understand that what I said implies that I don’t take at face value the validity of a CONGRESSIONAL war game run, right?

            • 新星 [he/him/CPC bot]@lemmygrad.ml
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              I tried to change my display name to “a totally badass amazing military strategist big brain boi” for the meme reply but I guess that was too long…

              In seriousness though, do you really think we’re responding to you for your “librul tearz”?

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                That would have been an amazing name. And in serious? The person I responded to used ‘you liberals’ and ‘neoliberalism’ towards me, I was just mocking them.

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          If the US is doing so well at arming Ukraine and defeating Russia, then why are they losing? Why is Russia still taking land and why is this “counteroffensive” that the US and Ukraine talked so much about utterly failing?

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          Well, no. Ukrainian forces themselves stated that they need real anti-air capabilities because those javelins are useless. Please stop getting your news from NAFO bots.

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      Ah yes, the triumphant Ukranian army, winning so hard they’re resorting to sending amputees back to the front lines.

      I know that not everyone has heard of hypersonic missiles, but anyone who has shouldn’t be surprised when the pacific carrier fleet becomes a new coral reef.

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      The US literally couldn’t achieve their goals in Afganistan. If they couldn’t beat the Taliban, what makes you think they could win against a super power?

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        US literally couldn’t achieve their goals in Afganistan.

        Idk, comrade. They got plenty of money from opium trade, not to mention stealing government funds. Plus they ensured the region is destabilised and deindustrialized. Sounds like mission accomplished

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        Meh the US is usually pretty bad against an insurgent force using guerilla tactics (Viet Cong, Taliban, insurgents during Iraqi occupation). It’s great at engaging in large scale battles where there are clear targets though.

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          It’s great at engaging in large scale battles where there are clear targets though.

          When was the last time the U.S. was in a war like that? WWII?

          Edit: hit post mid sentence.

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          US failed in their push to the Yalu River against 1950s China. That was China at its weakest point when it was poor and unindustrialized. It was literally less developed than Sub Saharan Africa back then.

          Now that China is the host to the world’s largest industrial sector. The Chinese make the best hypersonics, the best drones, and the best surface combatant ships. All produced in numbers impossible for US industry to match. What makes you think that the US will fare any better?

          The Iran was the one the that dealt the mortal blow to Iraq. The Iran-Iraq War, the First Gulf War, and the sanctions left Iraq as a powder keg of religious and ethnic tensions. 12 years of sanctions on Iraq contributed to the defeat of their regular army more than anything the US military itself did.

          The US never fought in the large scale operations that the Soviet Army did in WW2. No US operation rivaled the size of Operation Bagration or the Manchurian Strategic Offensive.

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          If the US loses or has severe trouble winning in every war they have been in for years even against small groups of farmers then I really don’t think they stand a chance against the PLA and its allies.

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      We’re currently watching our hardware from 2-3 generations ago annihilate Russia in Ukraine

      “We” are seeing the literal opposite…

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      Those NATO trained Übersoldaten with Leopard 2A6s are really taking their sweet time against those shovel armed conscripts with Bukhankas.

      Do they plan on severing that land bridge any time soon, I guess their Crimean summer beach party is canceled?

      The only thing that was annihilated was the credibility of American economic warfare.