• moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    what I’ve heard about otherkin is that it’s like being trans but your dysphoria is about feeling like a dragon in a human’s body rather than feeling like a man in a woman’s body

      • BomberMan9865@sh.itjust.worksOP
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        21 hours ago

        Me being a therian doesn’t imply that either. I have dysphoria related to my species, phantom sensations related to parts I don’t have like big cat ears or a tail. These phantom sensations can be very unpleasant too, downright painful. Also the lack of these parts feels inherently wrong.

        I don’t entirely know why I feel like this either, but I found the therian community and related to a lot of similar experiences they’ve had with this.

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      1 day ago

      Yeah it shares more in common with a gender identity. For example I do experience a kind of species dysphoria if you will. I even get phantom ears and phantom tail sensations which is unnerving and also just makes me more sad I don’t have those parts.

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      24 hours ago

      Can’t work the same way though. By now trans is pretty well explainable given all the evidence of how brain structure differs between e.g. cis women trans men (i.e. trans men’s brains do show male characteristics connected to the male human phenotype). Even though we need a really big study yet (the evidence fromes from three small ones) the trail is there. So our mind probably tries to make sense of the signals those “lower-level” brain functions emit, very angrily so when they’re presented with hormones they’re not made for.

      Hence for otherkin it got to be quite different. We still don’t know anything (like, more than a few %) about the nature of identity and “self” yet given it’s an emergent property, that’s why I ended up with “furry spirituality” as it made most sense to me.

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        21 hours ago

        Isn’t brain sex contested? I mean I’m NonBinary so that already puts me in a weird spot, but also I do indeed have dysphoria related to physical characteristics that don’t have to do with gender like my ears and my tail, or rather lack of them. I actually get phantom sensations and pain, and it can be pretty upsetting and also pretty severe. Tail pain can be excruciating, but there’s nothing physiologically wrong with me (that doctors can tell) that would cause these sensations, nor would explain why I have so much discomfort around the lack of these very non-human traits.

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          21 hours ago

          I don’t think Non-Binary is a weird spot or anything. To my knowledge the whole brain structure thingy is on a spectrum anyway (I mean, makes most sense, doesn’t it? Any sex trait can be somewhere inbetween), and then there’s how every individual interprets what their mind and their environment tells them. The whole societal gender idea sucks anyway.

          Phantom pains are just awful… for the brain emotional and physical pain is the same anyway, it gets treated the very same way. Extreme pain about it will eventually get experienced in the way it makes most sense to you, so if you feel there should be something and you’re in constant pain it’s missing eventually your brain will elevate the pain into your conscious the way it makes most sense to you. 😟

          Sorry if this sounds cold to anyone, it’s just my way to make heads or tails of it.

          My humour is awful too.