• Nouvellalia@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        How much do you reckon groceries will cost then? From what I’ve seen, collapse brings neither groceries nor safety.

        • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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          1 day ago

          In the short term it’ll certainly suck but long term it’d probably end up being better for everyone, the problem with the fed is both a short term and long term problem. While groceries may get expensive for a couple years it’s unlikely theyd be nearly as fluctuate as they are now simply cause the states would be incapable of doing nearly as much stupid shit.

          • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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            22 hours ago

            It’s not usually just thst groceries get expensive. They usually get incredibly scarce too.

            People starve when things collapse.

            Revolutions happened with people starve.

            Lots of people die when revolutions happen.

            None of it is necessary if democracy can actually happen. We need citizens united, first past the post, and the electoral college systems removed. Then shit can change.

            • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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              22 hours ago

              While I agree I also would like to point out that positive change is extremely unlikely at this point, it’s not just one or two points within the institutions but basically every institution. I suspect that we have long passed the point of reform without some level of collapse and frankly I’d rather the collapse that destroys the US and prevents it from existing again than the one which will allow similar issues to reform.