I mean I have seen people unironically claim the second scenario. And people seem to forever be attempting to claim 20+ year old women as ‘children’ whenever they are dating older men as well. Which, sure call the dude out for being gross, but don’t try to rob an adult of their own agency. That always came off as weirdly sexist against women to me. Like a grown woman couldn’t and shouldn’t be trusted to make her own decisions. Which just felt like yet another way to control women, not actually protect them.
Agreed, I never understood this mentality. Not only is this extremely sexist (for no reason what so ever) but ageist aswell. I’ve seen this scenario occur on Lemmy (mainly .global), and the conclusion is always the same: the woman has the mental capacity of a 5yo.
Also, like other things, this behaviour muddies the waters in what pedophilia is - further straying off from its definition just to allow others to use it as an baseless insult and a deregatory term for the inflicted.
But yeah, I only consume memes and old books, and apart from Lolita I didn’t encounter that either. There a situation is worse as she is underage, so I don’t think this is relevant
I mean I have seen people unironically claim the second scenario. And people seem to forever be attempting to claim 20+ year old women as ‘children’ whenever they are dating older men as well. Which, sure call the dude out for being gross, but don’t try to rob an adult of their own agency. That always came off as weirdly sexist against women to me. Like a grown woman couldn’t and shouldn’t be trusted to make her own decisions. Which just felt like yet another way to control women, not actually protect them.
A 20 year old isn’t a child, but that doesn’t mean someone over double her age isn’t taking advantage of her youth and lack of experience.
What a weird place for you to take this conversation.
Agreed, I never understood this mentality. Not only is this extremely sexist (for no reason what so ever) but ageist aswell. I’ve seen this scenario occur on Lemmy (mainly .global), and the conclusion is always the same: the woman has the mental capacity of a 5yo.
Also, like other things, this behaviour muddies the waters in what pedophilia is - further straying off from its definition just to allow others to use it as an baseless insult and a deregatory term for the inflicted.
How is it sexist?
Probably in that it is often seen as fine when a woman is older, as long as the man is of age
I’m not sure how I feel, as I only have witnessed this scenario, not a teenage girl being with an adult man
You’ve never seen any teenage girl with an adult man before? Do you not consume media at all?
I mean in real life
But yeah, I only consume memes and old books, and apart from Lolita I didn’t encounter that either. There a situation is worse as she is underage, so I don’t think this is relevant