This guys gonna rot in jail. His best years of life - gone. Dreams and aspirations, destroyed. Worse than death isolation that will change handsome young guy to a traumatised mental wreck, permanently. All for a minute of feeling good, achieving nothing.
Instead of living fully, finding love and pursuing the dreams he chose bleak walls of concrete. Where other people have memories of familial warmth with their loved ones he will only have memories of rusty prison faucet and grey stone.
Instead of helping someone he ruined two or more lives. His own and the ceo family. Negative force in the cosmos. Nothing but the suffering is the result.
And of course internet people are amazed because millions of silent volunteers that actually work in healthcare and elsewhere, help every single day to make this world better place, are not as clickable and sensationalist as someone shooting smoking guns on the street “fighting the bad guys”. That girl that helps the old lady with the groceries ain’t no batman but every single day she does more than this Luigi guy will ever achieve.
He is going to rot in jail. This is not a good thing. It’s just the same complete monsters that built this evil system flexing the power on plebeians like us.
What you advocate for is nothing more than complacency, accepting one’s lot in life and never complaining. And this is a lot more cruel than you realise.
He was very wealthy and could live however he wanted to. Or even use family money to do good. He chose this instead.
From all the things he could choose to do with his life he wanted to be a Batman. Not to really help anyone but for that sweet justice high. To get a toke of one of the most expensive drugs on the planet.
He did do good. Health insurance companies decided to cover anesthesia completely the very next day. Additionally, that week a chunk of medical debt were forgiven.
You should be asking why insurance companies don’t do more good with all their money instead of dictating how private citizens should spend their money.
Because of the parading, its very likely a mistrial. Even if they get around with some fuckery, finding 12 people unaffected by claims denials will be very difficult. I can totally see people saying they have no conflict just to be on the jury to say not guilty.
There’s no timeline where the people who are in power let someone like Luigi free. They would sooner ruin the whole country than let him out of the prison any time soon…
I want to remind you that currently Trump is elected and he said “I think it’s really terrible that some people seem to admire him, like him," It’s obvious threat to his power.
You can kill a prostitute, homeless and get away with it but not a ceo of big leading company. Not challenge the very ruler of the country. I doubt he is gonna see the light of day outside of prison in his life ever again. They will make sure of it.
I don’t condone what Luigi did, but I understand. Whether he is rich or not, what Luigi did is a symptom of a broken society, just like someone who has to steal a diaper or milk for one’s baby. And sure, even Trump getting popular is a symptom as well, not the cause. Many people are getting sick of an increasingly injust society regardless of background.
What we are seeing is a bottle gradually going to pop. We have been warned years ago of the growing excesses of a society becoming greedy and too individualistic, but we did not listen. We want to see how bloated and fat we can get before we all burst together.
I don’t understand you guys. We live in the best era possible in the best places of the world. First world, free of ailments of the poverty unlike other 85% of the planet. We don’t die out of hunger. We can earn money posting funny videos on the web and instagram or sitting in our chairs all day in AC temp controlled rooms.
We go back to home from work to watch milions of entertainment options, there are literally innumerable of them. You can import brushes made from animal living in some distant part of the world to your feet to paint some very intricate plastic works of art. You can get from one point of the globe to the other and back for a monthly wage flying in the skies. We squashed hundreds of diseases. We made an artificial network that lets you instantly communicate with everyone on earth.
Yet from the way you say things one could assume that we are in some kind of Middle Ages or worse.
I get the motivation to still achieve higher levels of civilisation and that’s what got us so far after all but I think some perspective is nice so you aren’t stuck in some crazy doomer bubble.
Patience. These things will come. they are as inevitable as the sun rising tomorrow. But they need time and people who work for them to happen. Women and general equal chances, justice and independence are all the things we work for. But they aren’t magic, they need time.
However the trends are unstoppable as the water in a river. a slight regression under trump is just a symptom of the reaction to the progressive change. Temporary bump on the road. Meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
I am proud to be a human. I am proud for us to pioneer cosmos one day. I am proud that we got so far and I am positive that we will achieve even greater feats.
I don’t understand you guys. We live in the best era possible in the best places of the world. First world, free of ailments of the poverty unlike other 85% of the planet. We don’t die out of hunger. We can earn money posting funny videos on the web and instagram or sitting in our chairs all day in AC temp controlled rooms.
You must be. EXTREMELY, UNIMAGINABLY privileged if you’re saying that.
Poverty is at a high it hasn’t been since the great depression, most people are one paycheck away from homelessness and destitution. And most of the ones that aren’t on the “one paycheck” threshold are instead in the “one emergency” threshold instead, which is not much better.
In fact, if you have no debt and 20 dollars to your name you are officially wealthier than 90% of Americans. Don’t even need to be rich.
People rally around Luigi because what he did was incredibly cathartic, to punish one of the psychos responsible for our world’s rapid descent into some bizarre 1984-by-way-of-wall-e technodystopia. It might not accomplish anything… But it feels good. And people are desperate for some kind of good feeling.
Really I envy how naïve you are if you can’t see the way things have been going steadily downhill since the eighties with no real improvement.
Also lmao at thinking we will “pioneer the cosmos”. Elon Musk bullshit. We have driven our own planet into a now-entirely-unstoppable mass extinction event, and in ~30 years we’ll be struggling to produce enough food to feed ourselves, let alone going to some elysium in the stars.
There’s worse places out there, to be sure. China’s worse, for one thing. Russia who’s sending their own people to die over their dictator’s ego.
But I’d much rather be poor as a Brazilian citizen, where I have 100% free healthcare and education – Than to be poor in the US of A where you leave your unfortunate citizens to their own and blame them for their misfortune.
Ofc, given Murica’s foreign-interference-y habits and who’s currently in charge of your country, we might just become a fascist dictatorship again and all our public services might get defunded. It happened in the sixties, it almost happened in the twenty-tens, it can happen again.
I still find it hard to believe USA is so bad all of a sudden. It’s just mind bending, it’s hard to grasp how is it possible considering the statistics and strongest economy. I don’t think I will ever fully understand it.
One country instead of USA then for the “grass is always greener” fantasy I was kinda hoping to get into was New Zealand
China is literally right behind the US in “strong economy” stats and some expect them to surpass it… And that means jack and shit, because living in China fucking sucks, especially if you are under 30.
A strong economy means little if all that wealth is being used to…
… Uh. Kill people mostly.
Whereas the people’s lives have been getting steadily worse since 1980.
You know the Simpsons? It’s just a cartoon, right? It was originally a parody of eighties-nineties America.
The Simpsons as they were written in the late eighties were meant to be a lower-class family. They still owned their own house (a large, two story suburban property at that!), their own car, and all on the income of just the man of the house. They were “poor” by eighties standards because Bart didn’t always get all the newest and shiniest toys and they didn’t travel abroad every year.
The Simpsons’ economic situation hasn’t changed in the forty-ish years the show has existed for. But nowadays their lifestyle is considered insanely wealthy. There isn’t a single family in the US left that has their own home and car on the income of 1(one) man with a high school education, working for wages with no generational wealth, side hustles, or passive income. There just isn’t.
The fiction of the show has to make all sorts of excuses for that. It acts as an accidentally poignant time-capsule and depiction of how much the US of A has degenerated in the past 40 years. And the sad part is most of y’all seem to be cheering for this, or at least, resigned to the idea you can’t do shit about it – Like – This happened in America, these guys were Americans. Your ancestors took care of each other, in the face of authoritarian power, and often on the penalty of death. This is something you all seem to have forgotten.
Mind you, life has been getting steadily shittier since 1980 in – The entire first world really. Neoliberalism has done a number and a half on society. Reagan and Thatcher are the reason we all hope hell is real so they can go there. The living standards your generation has are shite compared to what your (grand)parents knew.
This is not the case here in the Third World… But that’s mostly because of how hard it sucked to live here in the sixties and seventies. Yeah, a messy society being eroded by cruel “austerity” measures is gonna be a dream come true when you are literally coming straight out of a military dictatorship that drained the country’s coffers and killed god knows how many people in the most cruel ways imaginable (thanks for that, by the way, US. Never would have happened without Operation Condor :3).
At least I can say I have like. A vote. And human rights after a fashion. And some hope that my life might maybe possibly not completely suck. All things with my parents didn’t have until they were… Literally in their mid thirties (which I’m close to but not quite at).
First world, free of ailments of the poverty unlike other 85% of the planet.
Excuse me, what? I know people living in poverty who can barely afford to keep a roof over their heads and don’t have heat/AC. I know people who cannot afford their nececary medications and are forced to go without or take out another credit card. I know people who were forced to start working at 14 in order to help their family survive. Not to mention the high rates of homelessness all over the country. You sound like you come from very privileged surroundings if you have not encountered this.
Additionally, a lot of actual third world countries actually try take care of their people. It’s far from perfect, in fact it kinda sucks. BUT. It is still miles better than the US that sees “being poor” as a moral failing that needs to be punished.
We live in the best era possible in the best places of the world.
That’s what people thought during the so-called Roaring Twenty’s before the Great Depression and World War 2 happened.
History repeats itself. People enjoy the highs; rest on their laurels; become too greedy and decadent; wealth inequality grows; the masses become pushed to extreme poverty; a demagogue comes claiming to save them; civil unrest happens; conflict happens; people learn and tell themselves never again; new wealth is generated; people become greedy again; wealth inequality happens again; demagogues reappear-- and the cycle continues. We have seen this happen from the ancient Chinese empires, the Roman empire, to the French, Germans, and now the USA. Just because it is good for now, it doesn’t mean the bad won’t ever come even if the tell-tale signs are present. It is the calm before the storm after as they. If the wealth inequality is not stemmed in the USA like what happened under Franklin Roosevelt, the situation that happened in Germany might happen instead there.
This guys gonna rot in jail. His best years of life - gone. Dreams and aspirations, destroyed. Worse than death isolation that will change handsome young guy to a traumatised mental wreck, permanently. All for a minute of feeling good, achieving nothing.
Instead of living fully, finding love and pursuing the dreams he chose bleak walls of concrete. Where other people have memories of familial warmth with their loved ones he will only have memories of rusty prison faucet and grey stone.
Instead of helping someone he ruined two or more lives. His own and the ceo family. Negative force in the cosmos. Nothing but the suffering is the result.
And of course internet people are amazed because millions of silent volunteers that actually work in healthcare and elsewhere, help every single day to make this world better place, are not as clickable and sensationalist as someone shooting smoking guns on the street “fighting the bad guys”. That girl that helps the old lady with the groceries ain’t no batman but every single day she does more than this Luigi guy will ever achieve.
Truly a “hero” of the internet
He’s a martyr is what he is.
He is going to rot in jail. This is not a good thing. It’s just the same complete monsters that built this evil system flexing the power on plebeians like us.
What you advocate for is nothing more than complacency, accepting one’s lot in life and never complaining. And this is a lot more cruel than you realise.
That’s what happens when people are desperate and he was desperate.
He was very wealthy and could live however he wanted to. Or even use family money to do good. He chose this instead.
From all the things he could choose to do with his life he wanted to be a Batman. Not to really help anyone but for that sweet justice high. To get a toke of one of the most expensive drugs on the planet.
He did do good. Health insurance companies decided to cover anesthesia completely the very next day. Additionally, that week a chunk of medical debt were forgiven.
You should be asking why insurance companies don’t do more good with all their money instead of dictating how private citizens should spend their money.
He had a 6 figure job and his parents are multimillionaires. He probably had access to more money than the guy he shot.
Because of the parading, its very likely a mistrial. Even if they get around with some fuckery, finding 12 people unaffected by claims denials will be very difficult. I can totally see people saying they have no conflict just to be on the jury to say not guilty.
There’s no timeline where the people who are in power let someone like Luigi free. They would sooner ruin the whole country than let him out of the prison any time soon…
I want to remind you that currently Trump is elected and he said “I think it’s really terrible that some people seem to admire him, like him," It’s obvious threat to his power.
You can kill a prostitute, homeless and get away with it but not a ceo of big leading company. Not challenge the very ruler of the country. I doubt he is gonna see the light of day outside of prison in his life ever again. They will make sure of it.
I don’t condone what Luigi did, but I understand. Whether he is rich or not, what Luigi did is a symptom of a broken society, just like someone who has to steal a diaper or milk for one’s baby. And sure, even Trump getting popular is a symptom as well, not the cause. Many people are getting sick of an increasingly injust society regardless of background.
What we are seeing is a bottle gradually going to pop. We have been warned years ago of the growing excesses of a society becoming greedy and too individualistic, but we did not listen. We want to see how bloated and fat we can get before we all burst together.
I don’t understand you guys. We live in the best era possible in the best places of the world. First world, free of ailments of the poverty unlike other 85% of the planet. We don’t die out of hunger. We can earn money posting funny videos on the web and instagram or sitting in our chairs all day in AC temp controlled rooms.
We go back to home from work to watch milions of entertainment options, there are literally innumerable of them. You can import brushes made from animal living in some distant part of the world to your feet to paint some very intricate plastic works of art. You can get from one point of the globe to the other and back for a monthly wage flying in the skies. We squashed hundreds of diseases. We made an artificial network that lets you instantly communicate with everyone on earth.
Yet from the way you say things one could assume that we are in some kind of Middle Ages or worse.
I get the motivation to still achieve higher levels of civilisation and that’s what got us so far after all but I think some perspective is nice so you aren’t stuck in some crazy doomer bubble.
Patience. These things will come. they are as inevitable as the sun rising tomorrow. But they need time and people who work for them to happen. Women and general equal chances, justice and independence are all the things we work for. But they aren’t magic, they need time.
However the trends are unstoppable as the water in a river. a slight regression under trump is just a symptom of the reaction to the progressive change. Temporary bump on the road. Meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
I am proud to be a human. I am proud for us to pioneer cosmos one day. I am proud that we got so far and I am positive that we will achieve even greater feats.
You must be. EXTREMELY, UNIMAGINABLY privileged if you’re saying that.
Poverty is at a high it hasn’t been since the great depression, most people are one paycheck away from homelessness and destitution. And most of the ones that aren’t on the “one paycheck” threshold are instead in the “one emergency” threshold instead, which is not much better.
In fact, if you have no debt and 20 dollars to your name you are officially wealthier than 90% of Americans. Don’t even need to be rich.
People rally around Luigi because what he did was incredibly cathartic, to punish one of the psychos responsible for our world’s rapid descent into some bizarre 1984-by-way-of-wall-e technodystopia. It might not accomplish anything… But it feels good. And people are desperate for some kind of good feeling.
Really I envy how naïve you are if you can’t see the way things have been going steadily downhill since the eighties with no real improvement.
Also lmao at thinking we will “pioneer the cosmos”. Elon Musk bullshit. We have driven our own planet into a now-entirely-unstoppable mass extinction event, and in ~30 years we’ll be struggling to produce enough food to feed ourselves, let alone going to some elysium in the stars.
So what you want to tell me is that the America sucks?
There’s worse places out there, to be sure. China’s worse, for one thing. Russia who’s sending their own people to die over their dictator’s ego.
But I’d much rather be poor as a Brazilian citizen, where I have 100% free healthcare and education – Than to be poor in the US of A where you leave your unfortunate citizens to their own and blame them for their misfortune.
Ofc, given Murica’s foreign-interference-y habits and who’s currently in charge of your country, we might just become a fascist dictatorship again and all our public services might get defunded. It happened in the sixties, it almost happened in the twenty-tens, it can happen again.
I still find it hard to believe USA is so bad all of a sudden. It’s just mind bending, it’s hard to grasp how is it possible considering the statistics and strongest economy. I don’t think I will ever fully understand it.
One country instead of USA then for the “grass is always greener” fantasy I was kinda hoping to get into was New Zealand
China is literally right behind the US in “strong economy” stats and some expect them to surpass it… And that means jack and shit, because living in China fucking sucks, especially if you are under 30.
A strong economy means little if all that wealth is being used to…
… Uh. Kill people mostly.
Whereas the people’s lives have been getting steadily worse since 1980.
You know the Simpsons? It’s just a cartoon, right? It was originally a parody of eighties-nineties America.
The Simpsons as they were written in the late eighties were meant to be a lower-class family. They still owned their own house (a large, two story suburban property at that!), their own car, and all on the income of just the man of the house. They were “poor” by eighties standards because Bart didn’t always get all the newest and shiniest toys and they didn’t travel abroad every year.
The Simpsons’ economic situation hasn’t changed in the forty-ish years the show has existed for. But nowadays their lifestyle is considered insanely wealthy. There isn’t a single family in the US left that has their own home and car on the income of 1(one) man with a high school education, working for wages with no generational wealth, side hustles, or passive income. There just isn’t.
The fiction of the show has to make all sorts of excuses for that. It acts as an accidentally poignant time-capsule and depiction of how much the US of A has degenerated in the past 40 years. And the sad part is most of y’all seem to be cheering for this, or at least, resigned to the idea you can’t do shit about it – Like – This happened in America, these guys were Americans. Your ancestors took care of each other, in the face of authoritarian power, and often on the penalty of death. This is something you all seem to have forgotten.
Mind you, life has been getting steadily shittier since 1980 in – The entire first world really. Neoliberalism has done a number and a half on society. Reagan and Thatcher are the reason we all hope hell is real so they can go there. The living standards your generation has are shite compared to what your (grand)parents knew.
This is not the case here in the Third World… But that’s mostly because of how hard it sucked to live here in the sixties and seventies. Yeah, a messy society being eroded by cruel “austerity” measures is gonna be a dream come true when you are literally coming straight out of a military dictatorship that drained the country’s coffers and killed god knows how many people in the most cruel ways imaginable (thanks for that, by the way, US. Never would have happened without Operation Condor :3).
At least I can say I have like. A vote. And human rights after a fashion. And some hope that my life might maybe possibly not completely suck. All things with my parents didn’t have until they were… Literally in their mid thirties (which I’m close to but not quite at).
Excuse me, what? I know people living in poverty who can barely afford to keep a roof over their heads and don’t have heat/AC. I know people who cannot afford their nececary medications and are forced to go without or take out another credit card. I know people who were forced to start working at 14 in order to help their family survive. Not to mention the high rates of homelessness all over the country. You sound like you come from very privileged surroundings if you have not encountered this.
Additionally, a lot of actual third world countries actually try take care of their people. It’s far from perfect, in fact it kinda sucks. BUT. It is still miles better than the US that sees “being poor” as a moral failing that needs to be punished.
That’s what people thought during the so-called Roaring Twenty’s before the Great Depression and World War 2 happened.
History repeats itself. People enjoy the highs; rest on their laurels; become too greedy and decadent; wealth inequality grows; the masses become pushed to extreme poverty; a demagogue comes claiming to save them; civil unrest happens; conflict happens; people learn and tell themselves never again; new wealth is generated; people become greedy again; wealth inequality happens again; demagogues reappear-- and the cycle continues. We have seen this happen from the ancient Chinese empires, the Roman empire, to the French, Germans, and now the USA. Just because it is good for now, it doesn’t mean the bad won’t ever come even if the tell-tale signs are present. It is the calm before the storm after as they. If the wealth inequality is not stemmed in the USA like what happened under Franklin Roosevelt, the situation that happened in Germany might happen instead there.