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    If you’re a drinker you know where the liquor store is. If you drink a lot you know what time it closes. If you drink too much you know what time it opens.

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    I think this is a bad map. No data, no sourcing, no analysis, nothing. It’s just clickbaity nonsense. Those aren’t even counties it’s just cutting the country up into random squares cause lord knows how forked the map projection is.

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      Those aren’t even counties it’s just cutting the country up into random squares

      hey, if it works for voting

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          Maryland’s sixth used to be pretty hilarious too. They put an urban center connected to an Appalachian rural expanse with a little corridor to drown out the rural votes. It’s a little less nonsensical nowadays though.

          The third doesn’t look like that anymore btw. It’s a solid block now.

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            It used to be gerrymandered to fuck. It was only recently rectified.

            Old

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            They were packing urban districts and cutting up rural districts to make safe seats. How the sixth and the eighth cut up Montgomery county to give it far flung rural districts was particularly funny. The first was a dedicated Republican seat so they purely packed the Eastern shore and other rural areas in it. Sixth used to be a Republican district before they packed urban Montgomery county into it. The sixth is competitive now that it doesn’t have a big chunk of Rockville in it.

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    When there’s nothing else to do, people drink. I went to college at the top of Michigan’s upper peninsula, and there was a running joke at my school, that there were only two ways out: You either drop out, or you graduate an alcoholic

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      But there’s red dots at a lot of the big cities (edit: at least in the South). That’s the opposite of “nothing else to do.”

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        You ever been in a big city in the South? They aren’t the densely packed walkable and/or public transportation heavy big towns like New York or Chicago. The old parts of town that were designed before cars now have narrow densely trafficked streets paved through them with inadequate parking and no real “park here and take public transport in,” nearly none of them have commuter rail, some might have bus services. The majority of the city is just heavy suburbs, miles upon miles of retail strip malls and tract housing.

        Even when you compare places like Greensboro to places like Sanford, you start going "Well there’s more brewpubs…which are bars. There’s more restaurants…that serve alchohol. There’s a comedy club…that serves alcohol. Greensboro is Sanford if Sanford had a functioning mall and a minor league baseball team. If you live there, at 6 pm on a given Thursday you can stay home or you can go out to a bar and that’s about it.

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          You ever been in a big city in the South? They aren’t the densely packed walkable and/or public transportation heavy big towns like New York or Chicago. The old parts of town that were designed before cars now have narrow densely trafficked streets paved through them with inadequate parking and no real “park here and take public transport in,” nearly none of them have commuter rail, some might have bus services. The majority of the city is just heavy suburbs, miles upon miles of retail strip malls and tract housing.

          – an Atlantan

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    I would think most places would have more bars than grocery stores. Even a pretty big town usually only needs what, 5 or 6 grocery stores for a population of under 100,000? And they can be more distant. People like bars to be near them and they generally don’t have the capacity of a grocery store, so you need more of them. Overhead is much lower too, obviously.

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      6 grocery stores for 100’000 people? here in sweden that’s not enough grocery stores for 50k!

      with 100k people i’d expect at least 20 stores, if not more.

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        in my experience, the grocery stores in sweden tend to be considerably smaller than the grocery stores in the united states. pretty much every grocery store in the US is larger than an ica maxi. there needs to be room for all 20 flavors of toothpaste and all 40 flavors of oreos.

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        Unless you’re counting shit like Dollar General, not even close to that many in the U.S.

        I don’t even know how they would survive with that low number of customers. Why would you even need 20?

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          That person is probably thinking of European size stores. I think grocery stores in the US might just be bigger on average than they are in Sweden? We have some big mega stores here compared to Europe.

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            yeah ours are oftentime closer to convenience stores, and distributed fairly evenly so people largely just go to the closest one. Stuff like walmart is terrifyingly big, that’s what i’d consider an entire mall.

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      You must mean grocery stores in us sense (i. e. gigantic)

      This is for shops in a 75k city in my country. I guess there are far more that are not shown at this zoom.

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    Interesting. A lot of the red spots in CO, at least, are places with not many people, so they only have one grocery store. If there are 2 bars, they’d meet the criteria. The center left spot looks like it’s where a lot of the ski towns are - small permanent populations (and getting smaller thanks to most of the housing stock being on airbnb), lots of tourists. Of course there would be more bars, and probably restaurants.

    The giant red swaths are uh…a little more concerning.

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    Virginia doesn’t have bars. They have restaurants that may have a bar in them. Even breweries with tap rooms have minimum food sales requirements.

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      I live in a small town in Wisconsin. The bars happen to also be the best restaurants. Doesn’t make them not bars if they serve food

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      California has a similar law in that any establishment that serves booze also has to serve food to some degree

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          Yeah that’s how some get away with it lol. Our local American Legion Post just has hotdogs on a roller for a couple hours a day, plus peanuts in bowls on the bar. Really it also comes down to local enforcement.

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            You reminded me of a Pennsylvania grocery store that finally got a license to sell new types or quantities of alcohol. But a food sale was required with each purchase, so of course they had something like 50¢ macarons next to the register!

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    the fuck is going on in upstate new york? wisconsin checks out, but why is upstate NY an isolated hot spot? it’s not like they drink more than PA or VT

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      A lot of people from the city have second homes there, vacation spots. Maybe that can explain it?

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      I’m currently in Wisconsin and am greatly pleased with the bar offerings…my family is from Buffalo…I understand

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      My wife worked with someone related to the owner of Al Capone’s favorite bar to lie low in when things got too hot in Chicago. She was told to namedrop her relative if she’s ever in Vegas and when she finally did she immediately got the ultra-VIP treatment