You think that’s bad, how about using your law degree to lobby on behalf of oligarchs.
That definitely puts them at the bottom with fraud and treachery. While working for a defense contractor merely falls under wrath and avarice, a slightly less severe circle of hell.
I keep saying to myself, at least I am not in “defence” or AI. Pay is bad, career is practically impossible, and positive impact on the world is near zero, but at least I am not making things worse with my day job.
“defense” industry when it’s about turning children into ash
I was gonna say, it’s always called defense even when it’s obviously offense.
As someone in cybersecurity, don’t fall for the claims that they pay more and the money is somehow worth it.
They pay a competitive salary just like everyone fucking else. They will not shower you in money. Companies like Google, OpenAI and Meta will pay way more than the average company, and defense contractors are generally average.
Check https://levels.fyi/ if you doubt me. Check Raytheon software eng salaries. It’s like $70k to $200k. Companies like Meta are literally something like twice that. $70k might sound nice but software engineers make twice that easy in tech centers like San Jose, San Francisco, or Seattle.
They get a lot of applicants because people fall for this, and thus don’t have to pay as much as you think.
There are plenty of dipshits who just need a job who don’t care who they work for. You will not get rich working for them. you will just compete with other fucks like yourself that have no morals, and somehow think they’re special and that the company is less evil with them there.
Your salary is mostly tied to the company, what they’re willing to pay, and how hard you’re willing to negotiate. You will find high salaries elsewhere if you know how to play this game.
Trust me you’ll go to hell working for OpenAI or Google too.
Was just about to say, tech companies are increasingly taking defense contracts so that’s a distinction without meaning.
be fair, Google amd OpenAI are defenae contractors (and Facebook might as well be one too)
used to work with someone that designed the circuits in missiles. he couldn’t do it anymore and left the field.
We had an intern at a previous employer who worked with us for two summers. Last I spoke to him, he was gonna go work for weapons company. I told him that was a morally terrible decision. As far as I know, he went there and might be making a lot of money. No respect from me if that happened.
One of my cousins worked for Raytheon right out of college. He didn’t last long there though. My aunt and uncle are conservative and he lived in a conservative area, so I imagine he went in with a positive view of the defense sector and then soured on it when he saw what was actually being done. All of those cousins were mad at their parents when they voted for Trump, and he attempted to block Fox News from the tv when he moved back in with them
Can confirm it’s the same with all the other one’s, like CGI, NorthropGrumman, GDIT, Leidos, CACI, etc.
Never met a person that’s said they treat them right in any of these places. I’ve had experience with at least 2 of them and I personally did not like working with these companies. They don’t treat you like a human being, which is not exclusive to these companies, but it really stands out with these guys when comparing with other kind of environments and employers.
The whole defense space in general is pretty toxic, at least where I’ve been at. I would say they mostly lean conservative just by how the culture is in this sector.
Better late than never I suppose.
Psh, just spec into a religion that doesn’t have a hell 😎💰
I swear I thought the drone guiding system would only be used for small drones used to film YouTube videos.
Be a liability, not a asset.
The world would be a much better place if only our enemies had any weapons.
No, you see, we need to design new and exciting kinds of bombs for the country with a larger military budget than the next ten largest national military budgets on Earth put together which we know they will drop on children, because if we don’t, you see, then another country like China with a fifth of our defense spending might build a newer bomb and drop it on someone we do like. Which we would be powerless to prevent.
Yes, like Taiwan.
Remember, kids, there’s no such thing as defense, only offense. The only thing you can do to stop yourself being bombed is threaten to send anyone who upsets you back to the stone age 👍
And you gotta be scared of Taiwan. It’s a real scary threat. A tiny island nation with a military budget nearly 2% the size of ours! There’s no such thing as radar and anti-missile countermeasures, you know. If we don’t have enough bombs to drop on children to make a worldwide show out of what happens to anyone who offends us, there’s absolutely nothing stopping a country like Taiwan from wiping our biggest cities off the map!
Oh what’s that? Taiwan makes most of our semiconductors and all they would have to do to cripple our economy is stop selling them to us? Well that’s all the more reason to need bombs then, isn’t it? Just as as something to… how you say… “align incentives”.
No, silly, I meant China would bomb Taiwan 😂
Seriously, though, read a newspaper or something.
