• The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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      which doesn’t mean throw your trans sisters under the bus. it means they’re semi automatically your allies against the capital holders frothing up their base of class traitors against them

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          i know you didn’t. but certain transphobe types around here on lemmy use their class based politics to justify their transphobia

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            Oh yeah.
            I once saw some someone saying that “the trans topic” was pushed by the bourgeois, and that justified transphobia, which is missing the point by a mile.

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              That’s where you tell them that “the trans topic” is just thinly veiled transphobia and that by spreading it and downplaying transphobia’s role in the “topic”, they are willingly acting as a mouthpiece for bourgeois propaganda designed to pit workers against each other.

              Fuckin judo their shitty logic back at them, and it’s always fun to watch them scramble to come up with the next excuse to justify their transphobia.

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      I actually don’t have any recent tea, my memes are all +2yr old reposts. the last one I heard of was Signalis characters but I do remember some sapphic drama around the Sheera at one point. the Arkane show seemed to stir up a little. RWBY was a bit more infamous for it. Sorry I don’t actually know more about the scene

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        Weren’t most of these explicitly gay though? Like yes, billionaires are the ultimate evil threat, but that doesn’t mean erasure of queer characters is just some distraction. It’s a genuinely fucked up thing that encourages real oppression.

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          I haven’t seen any of the examples I gave first hand, but from my understanding Sheera has definitely explicitly gay characters now. As for the premise of the meme yes, you’re right. Producers usually (looking at you, Disney) don’t purposely erase queerness in the era of 2020. But they do follow market trends and there’s a clear incentive to engage in prolonged or unresolved queer-baiting which results in sapphic fandom drama.

          you’re right, the meme is being hyperbolic for comedy though

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            It just feels like another downplaying of important social issues in favor of “class consciousness” meme, which is sometime that always rubbed me the wrong way. Like yes, these issues are used to divide the working class, but no, trying to flatten the conversation is not how to resolve things. They both greatly affect our lives, while often going hand in hand to maximize oppression for everyone. Claiming freedom to live must be a zero sum game is a common talking point for capitalists and imperialists alike.

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              I’m probably going to be guilty of that a lot, my anarchist awakening was only 5ish years ago so I’m still in that new-atheist-like state where “everything’s hierarchy, man. there’s not other real issues except the pedophilic capitalist elites turning every personal dynamic into an extension of the economy that they can dominate us through”. So I’ll try to think more about not doing reductionism on their behalf.

              Perhaps a better rendition of this meme would have been me clapping like a seal because I kind of enjoy hobby drama from my position as an onlooker and shitposter

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        Going back even older, there was conservative outcry when Korra and Asami held hands on Nickelodeon. The showrunners actually wanted their relationship to be way more blatant, but were continuously shot down by Nickelodeon. So the most they could get away with was some hand-holding. And even that was too much for conservatives.

        For what it’s worth, in the comic sequels, their relationship was much more obvious.

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          Oh bruh you unlocked a trove of memory about the “will-they-wont-they” arguments in the TLoK fandom. I remember people saying it was a marketing strategy to get people talking about the show more, creating artificial drama, back when people still thought corporations actually cared about LGBT+.

          Turns out, nope, just bigotry preventing the inclusion of LGBT+ romance in a kid’s show. Same shit as usual.

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          ooh, you know that’s a good point. I don’t think the person who made the meme was thinking about conservative pearl grasping but that fits the caption pretty well too. I should have thought of that

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            I’m of the opinion that both interpretations are just two sides of the same coin and thus both are, as you said, equally valid interpretations of this meme.