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Metallica has been a joke for decades. Remember when they were the poster boys for the industry opposition against Napster?
They were never metal, they just sounded like it. As soon as they got a voice and money, they hopped on the Corporate/Conservative bandwagon. They didn’t sell out on Black, they just stopped pretending.
Gazan orphans dressed as Miss Rachel while learning how to box is the most metal thing I’ve seen this year
Those guys haven’t set off a metal detector since 1987…
The “Hetfield Effect” describes rockers who are anti-establishment in their youth who often become more conservative as they age and are both wealthy and no longer able to be conscripted. Or, if we were to borrow a term from the boomers, “I got mine, fuck you.”
Also true for boomer hippies.
Also coincides with a complete loss of creativity.
There’s a similar issue from earlier this century of artists who turn into copyright maximalists once they’re ridiculously successful, forgetting the mixtape culture and the mp3 culture is what led to concert ticket sales and t-shirt sales.
But yeah they get old and afraid their gazillions are going to run out even when their tours are still selling out from albums released forty years ago, and they have a robust investment portfolio.
Their douchebaggery spawned one of the greatest Flash animations ever
You’re never gonna believe who the poster child of that was in the Napster era
Brings me back to the Flash animation series mocking Metallica for their Napster outcry.
MacroMedia Flash animation was so fucking ahead of its time, and Adobe can go to hell for murdering it.
some asshole drummer
Theyve always been dbags posing as rebels
So between the St. Anger debacle, jailing their own fans for downloading their music, and this, are Metallica the biggest pussies in the business?
They have very stiff competition but yeah, they’re DEFINITELY up there with the worst of them!
James is a fucking coward and metallica is shit.
I never got over having my Napster account blocked because I had one of their shit songs.
I never got over James Hetfield being proud that their songs were used to torture Iraqi prisoners.
(my bold)
In 2008, responding to the use of Metallica’s music to torture Iraqi prisoners, Hetfield was unoffended and replied, “If the Iraqis aren’t used to freedom, then I’m glad to be part of their exposure.”[47] British band Chumbawamba subsequently released a song called “Torturing James Hetfield” in response.[48] In a 2017 interview, Hetfield reaffirmed his previous stance, saying, “I’m honored my country is using something to help us stay safe, if they are. But then again, once the music is out, I don’t have control over that. Just like how someone’s giving it away online. They’re using it to do what they do.”[49]
I’m honored my country is using something to help us stay safe, if they are. But then again, once the music is out, I don’t have control over that.
Wow… Starts boldly claiming he’s pro torture, couches it in a “well maybe it’s not being used tho?” then immediately goes full on “wellp, it’s out of my control” 🤷
What a typical, boring, old right winger claiming he’s centrist.
Chumbawamba…is BASED!? Now I’m glad they get up again and cant be kept down…
Oh dude, Chumbawamba is ridiculously based.
Chumbawumba is a group of anarchists and most of their songs portray this fact. I believe it’s the main reason you only ever hear a song about getting shitfaced and not any of their other ones.
chumbawamba is deeply based. margaret killjoy did a two-parter on them years ago. they are more than just tumbthumping. try anarchy or english rebel songs.
Learned about their leanings a few years ago and I’m honestly a bigger fan of their politics than I am their music.
Would you say that this revelation has opened your eyes, that it’s time to wake up?
But not very metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1UZ6d0H8fA
Skinny Puppy sent the US defence department a bill.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/07/skinny-puppy-payment-guantanamo
What a fucking asshole.
I mean, that was back when they were still making good music afair…
Their anti piracy crusade still made them shit overall, of course, especially Ulrich.
I’m not afraid to say that it’s my honest opinion that Metallica hasn’t had a good album (musically) since “…and Justice For All.”
Load/Reload struggled to give us anything other than radio shill & everything after that was empty & hollow.
Pan-fucking-Tera & Slayer spanked them so hard they had to use cum & blood (allegedly) for anyone to give a shit, and that was just album covers.
Don’t even get me started about the album without any solos. It’s wasn’t necessary to include solos, but they made it obvious they chose not to.
I’m not afraid to say that it’s my honest opinion that Metallica hasn’t had a good album (musically) since “…and Justice For All.”
Agreed. That’s their best (yes, better than the black album) and last good album IMO.
I guess I remembered the Napster affair as being earlier or Load being later than it actually was 🤷🏻
Possibly unpopular option, but any guitar solo is just ass.
Dre too, fuck that dude as well.
Um ackchyually, Miss Rachel is more Punk than Metal.
¿Por que no los dos?
Punk made their anti-fascist / anti-nazi /anti-racism stances quite well known since the movement started. Metal on the other hand, one must carefully investigate each and every band, as half of them are open or closeted fascists and racists.
Half of them is a massive exaggeration. Even if only looking at black metal and ignoring the rest, the number of sketchy bands is still relatively small.
Especially black Metal
Especially from Scandinavian places (or just European).
I don’t know about “half”, but yeah.
I’d go with hardcore, I think.
Can I get the context for Miss Rachel?
Unlike the wimps of Metallica, she’s proven herself willing to jeopardize her career by speaking truth to power.
Specifically about how she thinks that murdering and starving hundreds of thousands of children is actually a BAD thing even when it’s the West’s favorite fascist apartheid state doing it.
I get that, I just don’t know who she is or what she sings or how she spoke to power. Was it a song? A post? I’m guessing she’s an entertainer for children?
She basically does education videos for toddlers, especially early language training afaik. She regularly makes calls to support children in war- and disaster torn countries. When palastine became one of those, conservatives got pissy.
Ok dope, ty. Good for her!
What’s her career?
Children’s edutainment.
And she’s damn good at it too, being nearly universally ADORED by the tens of millions of parents who’ve ever watched her videos with their kid, as well as the kids themselves.
Google.
Wow, she’s really into AI these days.
Our time isnt worth less than yours. Spend your own time answering basic questions.
I use to feel that way. I guess I still feel that way. Now-a-days I spoon feed information to people online because I know they will not actually look the information up.
Fair. I personally prefer to tell people to atop being lazy.
She’s based af
For anyone requiring too much context https://youtu.be/QwpanShgOp4
Thats a good one. Also off-topic, but i always thought “the sin of empathy” would be a dope name for a punk-band
Really from the band that crashed out over Napster?
They have no standards except double ones
If there were no double standards there wouldn’t be any standards at all
FIRE BAD!
between this and monkey for president, camp chaos was everything
James spent blood, sweat and beers!!
BEERS GOOD!
Blood, sweat, and motherfucking beer!
To be fair to Metallica, Metal, along with various “outcast” and “manly” hobbies/interest, have been infested with political tourist. It’s why these hobbies have fanbases that are just insane, but do have money to spend. It’s grim, shit sucks.
There’s also a ton of white supremacists, I don’t think Metallica would particularly lose any fans but I bet some metal groups would actually lose fans supporting Israel lol.
Metallica have been tourists since day zero
So between metallica and megadeth=> they can both fuck off.
James has always had this position but ffs READ THE FUCKING ROOM MAN!!!
between metallica and megadeth i choose axl fuckin rose every time
I’m not up to date, what did Megadeth do?
Megadeth is very much Dave Mustaine’s band and Mustaine is a vocal born again Christian, former drug addict, former practicing witch, provacatour, loud mouth, and opinionated twat, there’s almost nothing about Mustaine that isn’t deeply offensive either currently or previously to almost every person. hell of a virtuoso guitar player, terrible person to be in audible proximity of.
Mustaine is a right wing Christian asshole
Ah we recently had a post where we discussed Megadave’s toxic behavior over the years.
Did Metallica do a sheeran?
Pretty much, except going the extra step of denigrating anyone with the moral fortitude to speak out.
I’ve not liked Metallica since well before Ed was ever first called a ginger cunt. Ed probably wasn’t even born when I started my brigade against those hacks.
T-SHIRTS GOOOOOOOODCRITICISING ISRAELI GOVERNMENT BAAAAAD
Shoulda just taken out the whole band if I’m being honest. They would still be legends and we wouldn’t have seen what gigantic pieces of shit they all were. Also no one would have to even knows who Lars is which would be a huge win for humanity.
What’s the problem specifically with Lars? I haven’t been in that deep about Metallica stuff in general.
I know he’s a mediocre drummer at best, but that’s kinda where my knowledge about him ends
Dude is the most establishment, greedy, douche in metal. Personally, my Napster account was banned way back when and I got an RIAA letter too! So absolutely fuck that guy. I could probably dig deeper into the shit he’s done but like this was enough for me to never listen to any Metallica song again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica_v._Napster,_Inc.
But if we want to get into the whole band, James Hetfield is a fucking douche too. He was proud of the fact that the CIA used their music to torture people because he’s, as far as I can tell, a mega-huge asshole:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABCDEFG_(album)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/19/usa.guantanamo
“If the Iraqis aren’t used to freedom, then I’m glad to be part of their exposure,” James Hetfield, co-founder of Metallica, has said. As for his music being torture, he laughed: “We’ve been punishing our parents, our wives, our loved ones with this music for ever. Why should the Iraqis be any different?”
Now he’s all, “don’t be political.” He can go fuck himself just as hard. Just a big pile of trash parading around as a human.
i was hoping someone would link chumbawamba
I wasn’t around yet when the whole napster thing happened. From what I understand, it was a huge music sharing website. Did it work P2P like thepiratebay? Or was there an actual legal entity behind it? And if yes, how did they profit?
it was a centralized p2p system. you connect to the napster server and announce your library. anyone can search the currently-online library, and then request the files from the individuals. that central search system is what was targeted. decentralization efforts were made by some others, but it was around this time that we got bittorrent anyway.
Limewire and Kazaa spawned directly from Napster then bittorrent soon after which was decentralized p2p.
I stopped listening to them after that, never bought another album or went to a concert. I was pissed they didn’t disband.
